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8/25/2015 5:15:01 PM
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Lol you turn around and do what you condemn me for doing. I'm a Christian precisely because I question my beliefs. And I wouldn't hold to my belief no matter what. Paul says if Christ didn't rise from the dead then our faith is in vain.
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I condemned you for nothing, merely stated your bias and hubris. Nice try deflecting it back to me, but it's utterly useless. Your faith is based off of what? You have no proof of God, Jesus rising from the grave (Turin shroud was debunked) and only have the words of others before you, so why do you believe in the assumption of God?
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Yep, lack of a body, trustworthy eyewitness accounts, dying for what they claim to have seen(not a belief, but what they saw).
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2157217/The-Turin-Shroud-fake-Eminent-historian-claims-40-similar-cloths-originated-1-300-years-AFTER-crucifixion.html Even the church knows it's a fake
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Um... I never mentioned the shroud of Turin. I've known it was fake since I was a kid.
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[quote]lack of a body[/quote] When [i]I[/i] brought up the Turin shroud. Soooo, either you're lying and are backtracking or know you're bs'ing
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The lack of Jesus' body being in the grave has nothing to do with the shroud.
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Ofuk, that's ALL that mattered! The lack of a body and yet a shroud was THE evidence for Jesus and the Resurrection!
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No, sorry. The empty tomb and no trace of his body anywhere is the evidence. We don't need a shroud to determine that. That's why I never mentioned it.
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Omfg you just restated nearly verbatim what I said and said I was wrong. It's not even like you fuсking changed any logic of it, you just added an easily falsifiable tidbit "All whole numbers can be square rooted!" "Not negative!" "Yes, they can" "Nu uh, because [i]i[/i] isn't a number"
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You are talking nonsense. You said I mentioned the shroud of Turin, which I didn't. Then you said that the shroud of Turin is the evidence for the resurrection, which it isn't.
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I never said you mentioned it! I said I referenced it and so when you said stuff that related nearly perfectly with the Turin shroud, it was something to me!
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Nothing I said was even remotely close to the shroud.
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[quote]Yep, lack of a body, trustworthy eyewitness accounts, dying for what they claim to have seen(not a belief, but what they saw).[/quote] Body I was talking about the Turin shroud when you commented. Obvious to see why I assumed. Dying Idk if people died to halt science, but wouldn't be surprised. Happened before. Claim to have seen Claim to have seen...the shroud of Jesus? Makes sense in the context of my subject
