[quote]Atheists abandon all traces of logic[/quote] Interesting, since atheism is all about logic rather than blindly following a book some guys wrote thousands of years ago. Seems to me whenever religious people are presented with logic that directly contradicts their faith, they hold their ground even after being proven wrong. Case and point: Ken Ham vs. Bill Nye. Ham was arguing that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and Nye presented him with a ridiculous amount of evidence that the Earth is in fact 4.5 billion years old, while Ham's only counter argument was, "Well Bill, there's this book, and it tells you everything." When asked what would change their minds, Bill Nye said, "evidence." He's willing to change his mind if he's proven wrong. Ken Ham said, "nothing." And that is the stubbornness of religion. Unwillingness to change when science and logic stare you in the face and prove you wrong.