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[quote]Atheists abandon all traces of logic[/quote] Interesting, since atheism is all about logic rather than blindly following a book some guys wrote thousands of years ago. Seems to me whenever religious people are presented with logic that directly contradicts their faith, they hold their ground even after being proven wrong. Case and point: Ken Ham vs. Bill Nye. Ham was arguing that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and Nye presented him with a ridiculous amount of evidence that the Earth is in fact 4.5 billion years old, while Ham's only counter argument was, "Well Bill, there's this book, and it tells you everything." When asked what would change their minds, Bill Nye said, "evidence." He's willing to change his mind if he's proven wrong. Ken Ham said, "nothing." And that is the stubbornness of religion. Unwillingness to change when science and logic stare you in the face and prove you wrong.
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  • That's the point of the Christian religion. We don't have suitable evidence that our God exists. However, our own experiences prove it to us. Unfortunately, people that aren't Christians don't understand why we follow, and that is answered by one word: Faith. I will never be able to prove His existence to you. You will never be able to prove his nonexistence to me. That is the logical end.

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  • I saw a unicorn today. No one else saw it, and I can't provide any evidence that I saw it, but it proved itself to me that it exists. My own experience proves that unicorns exist. That's your religious "logic." One person insists something's real that isn't, we throw them in a mental hospital. A whole society is manipulated into mass-delusion by a corrupt system created by the powerful to control the masses, we call it religion.

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  • Atheists assume they operate under logic. And the age of the earth isn't in the bible. Despite what Ken Ham says.

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  • Earth is 7 days old by the time all of creation Then 6000yrs of civilisations until now That's how they came up with the number

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  • I know how they came up with it. But the term day doesn't only mean 24 hours and the 6000 year calculation doesn't hold up because there is unaccounted for time in the creation account and the genealogies are not all exhaustive. If the bible doesn't explicitly say it, we are only speculating.

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    Look up the Genesis code, it's a theory that uses quantum physics to hold true to an old Earth, and stay true to the bible

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  • I've actually seen that, it's pretty good. I really don't hold any position on that account because I don't like speculating on something that the bible doesn't outright say. But yeah, I've studied a bunch of theories on the subject.

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    True, I've seen two very likely theories both of which I want to believe

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  • Yeah, it's a very interesting study.

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