Nice to have an intellectual debate over religion it's usually someone bible bashing or completely saying religion is crap, regardless of what either of us believe there's plenty of evidence to debunk both arguments, it's definitely not cut and dry and truthfully no one will ever know if anyone is right. But the only thing that is an absolute given is that religion and that is all of them are man made and subject to gross misconception and they are all the same in 1 respect, they are all amalgyms of what's come before I mean the 10 commandments are taken directly from Buddhist teachings which in turn were taken from Hinduism et al this is not a bad thing just evolution