I have the messenger. Even with similar rolls the HP feels stronger. The 100% stability on the HP is the most stable I've ever felt on a weapon this powerful in this game. 2 burst kills. Insanely steady. Even if the player gets away after the first burst, he's running around with such low health your probably waiting for a assist to pop up on your screen. I am very happy with my roll. Though I would like to get another HP to roll braced frame, and hidden hand. Amazing weapon though, hope it drops for you soon