[quote]It has nothing do with what people enjoy, why are you getting into that? And no thanks I'd rather not watch those over rated destiny streamers, I'm not looking for anything. People are dumb for watching streamers, they're dumb for giving them money, throw them a couple bucks sure but the people who give them over $100 are insane. Sure anyone can enjoy games, did I say they couldn't? No. Video games are awesome, that's why you play and experience them yourself, and not pay others to play them for you. Like I said, I doubt the people donating are unable to play these games themselves because if they have money to give a stranger playing games they have money to spend.[/quote] Well I guess you're either being purposefully ignorant or you're just unable to grasp the conversion. Honestly I think you know you're wrong, but are too proud too admit it. You can't understand why someone would give money to a streamer. Your argument is you can play games yourself. In response I say why pay to watch your favorite sports team? Sports are awesome, that's why you play and experience them yourself right? It has EVERYTHING to do with what people enjoy. You don't enjoy it so you think it's dumb to do and support. Maybe we think what you like is dumb to do and support. Video games are dumb and bring no value to the world. It's dumb to buy them. You're paying someone to sit at a computer all day inventing fake things. Am I wrong? No, that's just my opinion ( just using your logic on something you enjoy, not actually how I feel ). [quote] I doubt the people buying tickets are unable to play these sports themselves because if they have money to give a stranger playing sports they have money to spend.[/quote] Again, same logic. If someone enjoys watching someone play baseball or video games, why are they insane in either case? Because you're ignorant and can't accept other people's interests? You can't understand why someone would pay to watch. I'm telling you it's because they are providing entertainment. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean others don't either. Are you really not getting that? No you didn't say anyone can't play games. My point was that even some pro athletes like to "sit around all day playing games". One enjoyed watching others play so much that he sponsored a team. You think it's ok to pay to watch sports because you don't think "I" can go play that sport. You don't know who I am or my skills. I doubt you can play at the level of pro gamers so I think you should pay to watch them. If I can do something myself or not doesn't matter. If I enjoy watching someone do something why can't I pay or support them? Why are they overrated? Have you watched them? How long? Have you played them? How much? Did you beat them? Their team? In a competitive match or tournament? TLDR: Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean others don't. People often pay to be entertained even if it's something they can do themselves. You're ignorant because you are trying to force your interests/dislikes/opinions on others because you don't/can't/refuse to accept or understand theirs or that they have different ones. You're telling other people they're wrong and dumb and insane because they don't think exactly like you. This was a simple response that you can't seem to accept. You don't know why people pay streamers? Because they like them and what they do. FYI I have not and do not plan on giving any money to any steamer. I understand why someone would pay for something they enjoy though.

I'm ignorant because in my opinion people who pay streamers are stupid? Mmmhmm okay. You're obviously taking this thing to heart considering you've given me essay after essay explaining why my opinion is wrong and your opinion is fact. Why don't I go pay a hit man to murder someone for my entertainment huh, it's not stupid to give my money to someone like that because it's for my entertainment right? You've taken my OP and expanded upon it unnecessarily. You've brought it all this crap about what people spend their money on when the topic at hand was simply about donations for streamers. Honestly I can imagine you sweating while typing out these replies. Call me ignorant all you want, fact of the matter is its my opinion that people giving money to streamers is stupid, who are you to tell me my opinion is wrong and I'm ignorant. Your claims aren't necessarily fact either buddy. There are many forms of medium, but you're comparing legitimate professions to people who play games all day. I dislike sports l, they're boring to watch id never spend my money to watch them, it's my opinion. Key word [u]opinion[/u]. I dunno why you're so worked up over this, why waste you're time arguing with someone on a forum when you could be out wasting your money on forms of entertainment. Your beefy replies have entertained me and I didn't have to pay a cent. But seriously, you want me to admit that my opinion is wrong? No thanks, I stand by my claims, give me 100 more paragraphs your not gonna change my mind. What I honestly don't understand is why you're so into this topic, why is it you've gone out of your way to justify idiots spending their money on idiotic things. I'm sure being a streamer is grate, sit around play games while 12 year old throw you their allowance.

[quote]I'm ignorant because in my opinion people who pay streamers are stupid? Mmmhmm okay. You're obviously taking this thing to heart considering you've given me essay after essay explaining why my opinion is wrong and your opinion is fact. Why don't I go pay a hit man to murder someone for my entertainment huh, it's not stupid to give my money to someone like that because it's for my entertainment right? You've taken my OP and expanded upon it unnecessarily. You've brought it all this crap about what people spend their money on when the topic at hand was simply about donations for streamers. Honestly I can imagine you sweating while typing out these replies. Call me ignorant all you want, fact of the matter is its my opinion that people giving money to streamers is stupid, who are you to tell me my opinion is wrong and I'm ignorant. Your claims aren't necessarily fact either buddy. There are many forms of medium, but you're comparing legitimate professions to people who play games all day. I dislike sports l, they're boring to watch id never spend my money to watch them, it's my opinion. Key word [u]opinion[/u]. I dunno why you're so worked up over this, why waste you're time arguing with someone on a forum when you could be out wasting your money on forms of entertainment. Your beefy replies have entertained me and I didn't have to pay a cent. But seriously, you want me to admit that my opinion is wrong? No thanks, I stand by my claims, give me 100 more paragraphs your not gonna change my mind. What I honestly don't understand is why you're so into this topic, why is it you've gone out of your way to justify idiots spending their money on idiotic things. I'm sure being a streamer is grate, sit around play games while 12 year old throw you their allowance.[/quote] Oh boy we may be getting somewhere. You're right, my opinions aren't facts just like yours aren't. Yes I've tried numerous ways to explain to you this idea because you've yet to understand the point. The point was simple. People pay for entertainment. Streamers provide a source of entertainment. Hence some people support those streamers so they can continue to entertain. Same way people support other forms of media and entertainment. I said you're ignorant because you're insulting other people because they think differently than you. You say others are stupid because they like something you don't like. What a boring world it would be if no one was ever allowed to like something different. Did I miss the memo that you're the supreme judge on what's ok to like? I said a couple times you're free to have your own opinions and interests, but that doesn't make them "right" for others. See that? I'm not claiming my opinions as facts. It's ok to not think it's worth paying for that form of entertainment.

And what does it matter if that's what I think, once again it's my opinions and it affects literally no one, I think they're stupid for giving their money to streamers, end of story. Not saying the people who are doing it are straight up retards but I believe it's a dumb thing to do. Don't get so offended. And like I said in another post, I do understand people pay for entertained main, and as I said I should have stated it in another way, it was wrong to say I don't understand. There is undoubtably people who have opinions saying the crows who _____ are stupid. It's their opinion, try to take it lightly. And please, just people I claim people who do it are stupid doesn't mean I'm going out and individually calling these people stupid. I accept the fact that people do it, I just don't think it's a wise choice.

[quote]And what does it matter if that's what I think, once again it's my opinions and it affects literally no one, I think they're stupid for giving their money to streamers, end of story. Not saying the people who are doing it are straight up retards but I believe it's a dumb thing to do. Don't get so offended.[/quote] I replied to you original post which is this: [quote]I don't understand donations, making YouTube videos and getting paid from the adds on the videos makes sense, but I don't think I could enjoy watching someone play games enough to give them my money.[/quote] I tried to help you understand how streamers make money and why some choose to support them. It really doesn't matter what you think, all I tried to do was help you understand. You tried to defend your opinion as the only way. I tried to show you how/why other people feel differently. You refused to accept that and went on to literally call anyone that thinks differently dumb and insane and then attacked me personally. YOU are the one who got offended. I honestly don't care what you think or what you think of me.

For someone who claims to not care you sure as hell don't do a good job of it considering how you keep replying and claim that I attacked you. I'm assuming you haven't read anything I've said. And I didn't say anyone who think differently is dumb, I said the ones giving money to streamers are dumb, I'm not offended you are, if you weren't you wouldn't care so much about the names I'm calling others. But I guess people who give their money to streamers fall under everybody who isn't me. The only jab I ever made towards you is calling you a D rider and asked why you were inclined to defend this topic if you can even call that attacking you? Get over yourself dude, your arguing with a stranger on a forum for what? Do you get some sort of satisfaction by arguing about someone else's opinions? Because I called a crowd of people dumb it's your duty to defend them all. Boohoo, I called people who waste their money dumb, big deal.

[quote]For someone who claims to not care you sure as hell don't do a good job of it considering how you keep replying and claim that I attacked you. I'm assuming you haven't read anything I've said. And I didn't say anyone who think differently is dumb, I said the ones giving money to streamers are dumb, I'm not offended you are, if you weren't you wouldn't care so much about the names I'm calling others. But I guess people who give their money to streamers fall under everybody who isn't me. The only jab I ever made towards you is calling you a D rider and asked why you were inclined to defend this topic if you can even call that attacking you? Get over yourself dude, your arguing with a stranger on a forum for what? Do you get some sort of satisfaction by arguing about someone else's opinions? Because I called a crowd of people dumb it's your duty to defend them all. Boohoo, I called people who waste their money dumb, big deal.[/quote] I didn't say I don't care about the topic or the conversion. I just don't really care what you think or what you think of me. There's a difference. You didn't specifically say that anyone that thinks differently is dumb, correct. You said you don't like watching streamers. You think it's dumb. You think people that do enjoy watching are also dumb. Hence you think people that think differently/have different opinions are dumb. It's your opinion that it's a waste of money. Billions of people don't enjoy video games. Should they all call you dumb and say you're wasting your money because they don't enjoy it? Why argue? I wasn't at first, I actually tried to help you and others. Instead of reading and comprehending the information, you chose to deny facts, grasp for reasons that your opinion is fact and insult people. At this point I have actually gotten satisfaction watching you make a fool of yourself. You showed your ignorance of other people's opinions. You got upset at being shown you're wrong. You acted childish and attacked me personally because you had no sound argument. It was actually kinda funny to see your downward spiral. Anyway, I'm done here. Later man. Hope you find something you enjoy doing.