Let me give you a good example Cryaotic does a stream every Saturday from 11 PM - 7 AM EST He keeps above 10,000 viewers at all times, at the beginning of the stream from about 11 to 1 he keeps Sub mode on, but after that, he puts sub mode off, [b]but[/b] slow mode set to 30 seconds, making the chat manageable, but not impossible to keep a conversation. Then at about 4 AM he puts sub mode off, and the slow timer to 10 seconds What I'm saying is that it's not impossible to keep a manageable chat, even with 10K+ viewers