I was just making a point about ppl saying things like you said, but have a couple thousand kills with weapons. You probably upgraded it during a mass upgrade session....that's what I did. I did look at your stats before I posted....you have like 2500 kills with Thorn. I'm sure not all of them are from pve. It wasn't a slight at you personally, your comment and use of thorn just happened to be what made me say my piece. It was coincidental that you make that comment and happen to have 2500 ish kills with it.