[quote]...instead of talking about how "hot" a girl is...or burping...or just whatever.[/quote] First of all, that's pretty sexist coming from some one who is victimized by sexism. Dads of Destiny are doing quite well at maintaining their integrity while accepting female gamers. What I mean is that just because the Dames may allow men doesnt mean they have to allow everyone, they have control over who can stay, that is the beauty of a clan. I feel the Dames refusing to accept men is absolutely a pejudice and a discrimination, and is an oversight of an opportunity to better their community, and the community as a whole.