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7/30/2015 9:29:45 PM
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Clan that only allows women into it.... Sexism against males itself? Glad we only care about sexism going one way now.
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You might as well get mad at your high school girls' sports teams because they don't let guys in them.
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Video games vs basketball/football/baseball teams is in an entirely different comparison, I may as well compare a vegan restaurant to the dames then. Men are proven to be stronger then women generally and when speaking about physical sports this gives them an upper hand just speaking on stats. Video games offer a very level playing field where your physical prowess has no affect on how you can play. Now on topic about high school sports girls are playing on all male football teams and on all male wrestling teams besides them self. I don't have any problem with that and good for those girls for being though enough to compete with the guys.
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What about the dads? If you truly believe this is wrong then you should be mad at them to right?
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Again they accept anyone
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Okay but what about all male clans you don't get mad at them! It is better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt. You are a fool
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Those male clans you are talking about are not getting praise by bungie for one and for two they don't have the original OP of this topic saying women are being sexist to them. Had this been a topic about an all male group that made sure to exclude all women and the OP posted what he did I would of responded the same way but with men. Your right about being a fool, maybe you should go back and reexamine who is the fool.
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Because the males are not facing sexism.
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And they are not being praised by bungie either.
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They are being praised because they are creating a safe place for girls in the community.
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So you can't have a safe place for women without excluding all males?
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Yes, that's the tumblr position in a nutshell.
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Don't do tumbler so ya got me stumped....
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If the world was a perfect place then yes that would work but there are sickos that would join and thus make it a not safe place. I just want a community where we don't have to make clans to make people feel safe
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It would be ideal yes and yes it's very far from the truth. But let's say they found those types of guys who aren't creeps, assholes, ego maniacal, perverted, etc etc etc... but they are perfect matches for the dames and there philosophy. The test is would they be excluded still? Why exclude someone who is exactly perfect for you just because he has a penis? Your silly rules, wouldn't those rules be called sexist? I'm sure the dames themselves even know guys who would fit the bill now but they don't have them in the clan, now who knows for what other reasons besides the one main one.... They are not girls.
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I'm all for them doing that. I don't think it will happen any time soon though
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Until that point I will think it's a sexist clan then. Not saying it's a bad clan for what they stand for but the implementation of the ideals made it sexist.
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I respect your opinion and hope that one day they won't have to make a clan to feel safe
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I'll agree with you completely on those points lol. The same to your opinion too.
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How to make a safe place: 1st Realize that trouble makers are the ones making trouble. 2nd Exclude trouble makers How to not make a safe place: 1st Realize that most the trouble makers you've seen share an unchanged-able and un-related to the problem at hand characteristic. 2nd Fail to realize that this happens because most people you see in general share that characteristic. 3rd Fail to realize that many that share that characteristic are not trouble makers. 4th Exclude those who share that characteristic.
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Edited by jitsudave: 7/31/2015 1:06:41 AMYou're so stupid. The whole fact that this happened is proof enough they should have their own clan if they face abuse from idiots. There's a dads of destiny clan. Gonna rage about them not having mums or daughters or people who aren't fathers. Women face abuse in the gaming community all the time. Until that problem is fixed why shouldn't hey have a place they can feel free to play without harassment?
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Men also face harassment all the time... The problem they face isn't Men, is the Harassing members of the Community
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True and that shouldn't Happen either. I don't see why because some men are harassed that means women don't have the right to do something about being harassed. They wouldn't go through the bother of making the clan if they didn't face issues. Men don't (in general) get nearly the same level of abuse as women either.
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This problem is not Men vs Women.... Makes no sense banning men because they are men. But even if it did, no one should because one would be discriminating based on a characteristic that one cannot change. This case, gender. It is despicable that Bungie supports people like this. It's Harassers vs People with functioning brains. It makes sense to ban harassers. An harasser has total capability to stop being an harasser. It just so happens that women are a minority. It just is happens that they are super sensitive about gender insults (if they weren't, none of this would be a problem) Everyone gets harassed. They aren't harassed because they are female, however: because they are so sensitive and the harasser knows it, the harasser will use his best attacks against female gamers ( like me and you use Thorn/TLW in trials) which are gender related insults. It's like this, Defender Titans are more vulnerable to melee fights than the regular guardian. If it is to be fought by a smart guardian, this guardian will try to make the Defender fight in his week ground, thus starting a melee fight. Now you can say that Defender Titans are a minority and are being attacked be long range melee using Warlocks and the Blink Striking Bladedabcers. They didn't attack the Defender Titan for being a Defender Titan, they attacked like they attack anyone else. They used their best attacks against the Defender Titan.
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Making a clan exclusive like that only makes them targets, lol.
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And again dads accept anyone. Again I'm not bashing the idea of the dames either simply the fact that a person is trying to defend a sexist clan, in reality it is sexist, from sexism.
