Go ahead, check. I don't even remember equipping thorn even once, yet it's 365 in my vault. that's how long ago it was since I used it. I'll give u my exact load outs for all crucible matches. (I put this together for a clan mate earlier). Red Death, Her Benevolence/Matador = for pretty much everything No Land Beyond, Vestian Dynasty/Matador = for pretty much everything when I wanna have fun (which is most of the time now) Universal Remote, Her Benevolence = For Pantheon, God I hate Pantheon I've only tried all of my trials adept weapons in crucible a few times, but I just really use them for PvE content now. I think that's it, feel free to look at my stats.