Not sure I could agree more, I too have most of the "broken" pvp weapons, and in all honesty I rarely start pvp with out red death equipped and thorn on stand-by. I hate that I have to use this formula to be competitive. I hate thorn as it is, and I know 2.0 is gonna nerf it a bit, but I think the easiest thing to do would be to just add the words "minion of darkness" to all the exotics unique abilities i.e. restore health and increase reload speed every time you kill... a minion of darkness. Boom. Thorn causes persistent damage to ... minions of darkness. Did I just blow your mind? If this were to never actually happen then yes a PVP mode that was completely free of exotics would be amazing. I would say it would be a truer showing of skill. Sure there are a few legendary weapons that are broken as well but the gap on those with and those without I'd imagine are far less annoying. So, yeah "minions of darkness" talk about it get others talking about it maybe we can have an influence.

I don't have any of the current PvP-dominating weapons (TLW/Thorn/etc) and Crucible is an absolute nightmare for someone like me. I'm left unable to compete in a firefight against a player that's simply [b]decent [/b] with the right exotics. I scream at the TV. [b]A lot.[/b] It's because there's this thing people try to do in the Crucible called bounties. And if you're literally unable to compete effectively in 90% of your encounters, it's a really terrible experience. I avoid Crucible bounties as much as humanly possible. I avoid the Crucible. Before anyone chimes in and says, "You're just bad," really, just try stripping yourself of any exotic weapons in Crucible and try to tell me you don't have a horrible time. Yes, you can do decently sometimes, you can go positive, maybe even really kick ass. But you're struggling for it so hard. Too hard. To the point that it isn't fun at all. Don't lie.