Some of this yes but some no I didn't buy destiny for the multiplayer, so I don't really play it I won't reach max grimoire for this reason or go flawless in trials I'd say I'm way above average in PvE but slightly below average in PvP Just because I'm not good at something doesn't mean I can't be a veteran, I'm not saying I suck, cuz I almost always go positive but I'm just not good enough to beat the best of the best I have shown this game commitment since day one, even when it was down, and to me that's enough I qualify for about 80% of this, but it's crucible's fault the community doesn't consider me a veteran Can anyone understand this?