With all the ppl that like to use thorn, it's a great counter. Especially the ones that like to 2 shot then back into cover. They shoot u with thorn, you get a couple shots on them. They then back off thinking the burn will kill u, (which it prob will). When they go into cover throw one of those grenades. Thorn user dies! That person may kill me, but hey I killed them as well! But in all reality, ppl need to quit whining about everything. It's ruining the game. Enough stuff has been nerfed already.