What a puss. Deal with it. And I didn't hear you mention sticky grenades. That takes skill. And other grenades are good for tactical reasons like area denial which is a vital role in the game. As far as axiom bolt goes, you can outrun or shoot the seekers. And the chain grenades only chain so far and only to so many people. And aside from sunsinger they won't kill in one hit. It's more of a finisher which i would say is an intelligent move instead of a cheap one. And you can't really diss sunsinger grenades. It's the whole point to the class. Anyway this sounds like a classic case of you suck at crucible. Grenades have their place. And if it's the only way someone can get a kill, who are we to take that away?