Here's the problem. Grenades like arcbolt and firebolt chain off of enemies. Although this okay in PvE, in PvP it is an absolute disaster.
Grenades are unfairly earning us kills. Although many people complain about Thorn's burn, it at least requires you to aim at the player (which actually takes skill). TLW and Thorn are both being bashed waaaay too much. They are both MLG worthy guns in case you didn't know.
In any case, if team mates during control decide to run out in front of you, regardless of what you are doing, you will get hurt by an enemy's arcbolt if it is chained off the scrub that charged in recklessly (let's not even get to firebolt with touch of flame and Viking funeral).
When the stormcaller warlock is released from TTK DLC it will have lightning grenades that will chain off of players that are impacted by it. Once more, certain exotic armors (*ahem voidfang vestments) will [i]reward[/i] bad kids with another super duper CHEAP GRENADE that will rack them kills like no one's business after respawning from death.
This gets back to my original point: arcbolt, firebolt and the new [b][i][u]OVERPOWRED[/u][/i][/b] lightning grenade from the stormcaller need to be changed [u]ASAP[/u]. The multiplayer that we all know and love deserve these changes for the best of competitive gaming.
So please - let's express our disproval to Bungie here. Maybe these grenades should be replaced entirely. What do you guys say?
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Waahhhhhh. Bungie grenades kill me. Nerf them now!! Waaahhhhhhhhh That's what I hear.
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ITS A FACKING GRENADE YOU NORON, you know, like the one that blew your dads legs off?
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Nerf nades? Lol..just take away everything and pvp will just be a dance fest.
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Had #cereal this morning
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People also complain about: -Thorn in crucible -Gjallarhorn in crucible -Not having Gjallarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engramarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engram -PoE 32 is much to hard! -PoE 34 is way to hard! -PoE 35 is insane to hard! -No checkpoints in POE? -Dismantling 365 weapons = motes of lights!? -Etheric light is too rare on pve -Etheric light is too easy for pvp players - PoE helmet before legs is unfair to warlock! -Treasure keys r too rare to get! -Treasure keys after update are too easy to get! -Lvl 34's are too OP in iron banner.
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Biased poll is biased, and obvious troll is obvious...
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Petition to nerf the shit out of this thread and leave my 'nades alone! Sign here.
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Fire bolt doesn't chain. Plus, make a not-biased poll and I'll pay attention
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If we put you in a river it would turn to a ocean from all your salt!
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Piss off mate.
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Just another reason Titans need blink and a better grenade/melee.
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Super biased poll, I refused to vote. And if this isn't satire, you're a -blam!-ing scrub.
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Get -blam!-ed:)
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Another whining baby, move along people [spoiler]bump if you don't give a crap about this guys opinion[/spoiler]
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a grenade is supposed to be a one shot kill. Think in real life how many people have survived a grenade explosion. They are supposed to be powerful. That is also why there is a recharge penalty evertime you use one And there is no skill involved in using Thorn. If you can hit the guy in the foot you can kill him, that is not skill. Thorn is a crutch. period. Unless you are right next to the guy or are a dumbass and walk right into it, it is hard to die by grenade. Just be aware of your surroundings
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I use flashbang so i dont care. Mist grenades are easy to dodge since there is an indicator on the screen when a grenade is near by. Maybe try not catching them with your face?
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I really don't like the grenades in this game. Especially sticky. But I understand.
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I picked the "I can't form an Opinion" one because it made me cry from laughter xD.
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Fun fact, if you walk far enough from a grenade, you won't take damage from it
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LOL Anyone who says Understandable loses my respect.
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Of all the grenades, you complain about the ones that DON'T kill you? Really? What, you're cool with Flux, Magnetic and Fusion grenades one-shotting you? *scratches head* Great, now you've got me started. Look, the easiest solution is to either not stand near teammates when you're at half health or lower - should be pretty easy - or, if you're hit by them while at max health, avoid taking further fire - again, should be pretty easy. Just duck around a corner and/or be mindful of your surroundings. It's not like these grenades can kick down your front door and murder your family; they need to be thrown straight at you and have a hard range cap.
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..when I toss a firebolt halfway across he map and lob it over map obstacles and ensure it doesn't land by a wall that will block my chain, I'm tossing an area effect onto the field much like drainer in halo 3. Don't walk into the drainer and halo 3 and expect to win a gun fight. It's not hard to combat a warlock with Viking funeral... Let's be real. It's really dumb that all these twitch streamers are just now starting to call OP for skill tree builds... We literally ALL have access to the same skill trees... Sweaties should be played without heavy and final round like the OG ruleset. Any other whining due to skill tree builds means one thing: you're an unskilled idiot running out into a situation and blaming the game for your inability to engage strategically. [spoiler]I run MIDA Multitool/Sniper main on a max agility gunslinger and every single one of my "get it offs" is from a tripmine, I get hate for it too, but guess what; utilizing builds (gunslinger being one of the most skill based) to your advantage isn't OP, it's playing intelligently. I kite people like PVE dregs into engagements that I choose; if someone isn't pushing me, it means a teammate can rush and engage.[/spoiler]
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You only have your grenade every 30 seconds, it is a whole other metagame. Just don't stand in a hallway the whole game.
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I'm sorry, but the choices for this poll are biased. You can't put up a good argument without seeing both sides.
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Wow. How about we nerf everything. That way, we all walk around with weapons like the pistol in halo 2
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At the rate people are going, soon guardians with be wielding big soft dildos around, never actually killing anyone, just beating them up. Nerf grenades? Really guy?