It's unbelievable how the thorn rules the battlefield with it's outstanding range. I have respect for it but the problem is what can counter it? Is it last word?..No no, its Red Death. But what if we don't have red death Bungie? I have no grudge against the weapon, but pitty for the others weapons. Auto rifles with no impact are rendered useless. I just don't understand why make weapons useless when you try to "Balance the PVP" A balanced pvp is when all weapons are semi useful!!!!!!!!!