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6/27/2015 8:12:48 PM
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Severe Disappointment

I kept telling myself I wasn't going to come on to post my thoughts on "The Taken King" and how pushed away I felt by the initial handling of the DLC, but I can't hold back anymore. The time has come to post my thoughts so they can promptly be ignored. I do feel a bit suckered into having dropped my $40 for "The Taken King", but I know I'll play it. I know I will most likely enjoy it. I have no problem with not having gotten the "exclusive" content, until Bungie came out and put a price tag on it for people who already have all the available DLC. $20? Are you kidding me? For some novel trinkets? Looking back, TDB and HoW both cost $20 a piece. The content was there and (for some) the price was reasonable. I felt I got my moneys worth from both expansions. But charging an extra $20 for some emotes, shaders, and XP boosting class items not only is egregious, but really cheapens the value of the DLC that has already been released. If they tacked on and extra $5 for the CE exclusives for people who already had everything, I would consider the purchase to be reasonable. $40 for "The Taken King" already felt like a bit much, but I swallowed my pride and ordered it. If the CE content that is being sold has half the value of "The Taken King", then by all means Bungie, let me know why. My next point isn't as bad, but is still a matter of much frustration. Red Bull and their exclusive quest. That wouldn't be too much of an issue. I will gladly by a can, dump the contents out on a curb for the code. $2 is chump change for me. But wait, what's that? You have to go to a 7-11 during the month of July in order to get the cans that will have codes posted on them? Once again, Bungie has found a way to push players out of the way of getting the full experience from "The Taken King". The nearest 7-11 is 350 miles and two states away from where I live. Thanks, Bungie. Way to isolate pockets of the country. I know that the quest will be available at the start of 2016 for all players. I know I could call a friend who lives near a 7-11 and request they grab a can and get me the code. That's not the point. The point is the way that they are marketing this deal. I understand that plenty of cash may have been thrown their way, but this is not the Bungie all my Xbox owning, Halo loving friends told me about. I appreciate the effort to give all the Day One vets some of their own exclusive content. Granted, all you'll see is a lot of people running around with black shaders on. I know it probably couldn't have been done within the confines of the game, but if I were given the option to make my own custom shader for my loyalty, then I would gladly forgo the black shader. But, it is a kind gesture from a studio that I don't think has much control over how they operate within the confines of a parent company that has been known to push the limits of what consumers will pay for. I really believe that if the 10 year plan for "Destiny" is to be seen through, how future content and materials are marketed and priced to consumers is going to have to start taking priority over business deals regarding the distribution of content and materials. Of course, such is the business climate where you have to balance out the money from both exclusivity deals and money from consumers. How much will you take from other businesses, while potentially losing customers, how much will you charge, while potentially losing customers, and how many customers do you intend to retain, in order to balance out the three way pendulum to make the most money? I know all the money doesn't necessarily go to Bungie as the parent company sees fit to distribute funds to balance out their business for their future projects as well. I work in the most successful division of my parent company and a majority of our funds go to support other divisions that aren't doing as well. I understand. And that is really all I've got. I still look forward to playing "The Taken King". After all, I spent my money on the DLC with missions, strikes, and a raid, and that is what I expect to get. Yet, I still can't help but feel disappointed in they way the extra content has been handled. Emotes, shaders, and class items are not worth $20. Making people wait to enjoy the full content of something they paid full price for is alienating. Yet, it's not a perfect world, and life isn't always fair. If you don't make your voice heard, what do you expect to change? High five if you read all the way through this post.

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  • High five! Great post! Where I have to disagree with you is the value of vanilla Destiny, and the value of the subsequent DLC's. And the value of a season pass that was supposed to have a raid in HoW but didn't. I don't think $110+ for vanilla Destiny and the subsequent DLC's is just not commensurate with what it is worth. The latest issues with Luke Smith and Red Bull--just the icing on the cake. But you got the spirit of the message down that I agree with 100%: disappointment. We all expect more out of Bungie than what we have received so far. So the issue becomes: can they fix this thing moving forward? I don't think they can fully. Activision is a huge issue. Bobby Kotick is a -blam!-ing prick. Look up some of his famous game quotes--they're great. And when you sign your rights away for $, what can you really do?

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  • Why give Bungie any more money? Destiny isn't worth the extraordinary prices being put on it. I would much rather play another game than keep playing Destiny. Anybody who pays for The Taken King is simply enabling Bungie to continue -blam!-ing over lifelong fans of their games. I have moved on and urge all other players to do the same. Unless we act, the gaming industry will continue to -blam!- over loyal fans.

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  • Edited by iDovahBear: 6/28/2015 2:19:24 PM
    First off... /High fives./ Most people on the forums aren't heavy readers, sadly. I get a lot of one-liners as replies to massive amounts of text as well. But what you're saying really seems to radiate the same vibe many of us are feeling. I myself think putting XP Boosts on the cans would've been enough. But a locked mission? That's absurd, even Call of Duty never went that far. And the fact it's apparently available only at 7-11? It just goes to show how poorly thought out a lot of this seems to be in hindsight. I don't appreciate the lack of thought processes Bungievision seems to be overlooking. Wish they'd make some appropriate changes, it's really starting to wear me out of Bungie. Along with the amount of garbage items being thrown into the game, I don't really see the point of playing unless you want the story the content provides. And we all know story isn't the games strong suit. We need a bit of an overhaul on game design, I'd say, but mostly just a solution to this TTK dilemma that should've been killed in its crib so to speak.

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    • Hahaa a whole book of text because you live in the middle of nowhere. You could have just made me your friend and I would have messaged you a code from a freakin can of red bull. But no. Your feeble mind can't fathom that fact.

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        • Lol Warframe released three emotes for free and I think Dying light is giving away free dlc for just tweeting a picture of you drinking water in response to this whole destiny fiasco.

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          • You could just wait three months for the promotional content? It all becomes available January 1st

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            • Your nearest 7 11 is 350 miles away? Spare a thought for those whose nearest 7 11 is a few thousand miles away!

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              • http://youtu.be/5FjWe31S_0g

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                • Same deal here get a refund if u can if not I'm sorry

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                  • A-Yup.

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