Those games are amazing, I just really hate that 343 got stuck trying to cater to a group of unforgiving, long-time, asshole fans who hardly have the time to play games anymore, and trying to bring in new people who are used to fast shooters. I'm glad Microsoft kept going with the game, and I believe halo 4 was one of the better games. I'm just glad people are slowly starting to accept 343. Seen a lot of people on these forums take a 180* when they announced halo 5 lol.