Read Edit 7... They nerfed them in PvE too when nothing was broken about them in PvE.

The damage is still op, and Range is easily overcome with the correct perks (rangefinder is op, nerf rangefinder (example)) instead half buff the damage, restored range and increase the kick severity.

Hand Cannons can kill you from across the map. Go in PvP and watch the range difference when you use Suros from up-close to a distance, you'll see why I am keeping things the way they are besides damage. "Rangefinder" didn't make any difference besides at scout rifle range counters, Thorn can easily outgun Suros with the damage restored because the "Range" stat on a hand cannons means practically nothing. Also Suros doesn't have Rangefinder. Suros has the best AR Range and Stability stats on an Impact-based Auto Rifle. Do live comparisons of how bad the range is on an Auto Rifle compared to Hand Cannon. I want to limit Auto Rifles to close range encounters but make them very deadly at point-blank - close-range encounters.

I use a pulse rifle in PvP because I have skill. No da!age over time, 2 burst crit kill, but all bullets have to land. The perks I use are more a PvE setup, I generally can outshoot snipers with my pulse rifle (lack of lenseflare helps) Hand cannons range WAS nerfed. People just reroll range perks and deal with the stability because they're used to it. Just like I'm used to the kick on my pulses. Scouts are designed to have range, but be harder to use in close quartets. Pulses are the best of scout and autos, hand cannons were designed for closer encounters which is why they dominate PvP. This balancing issue us there, you just sound like you're whining that your Suros isn't op and that's tanking your kd.

"you're whining about your Suros not being op" You realize that I'm the guy using Necrochasm and Dreg's Promise in PvP right? I'm ranked in the top 6,000 in the world for DTR score. If you can't land precision shots, you're garbage. Every gun requires precision shots to be good, that's a given. Don't give me that bs that people "re-roll" range perks, TLW has little to no range and I can still 3 shot you from across the map with 86 damage per headshot. I also don't care about my K/D, at all. I just want to actually enjoy PvP with my Necrochasm. I could care less about Suros. It was more of an example gun than anything. Thanks for claiming I'm whining though!

So why exactly are you posting this? You've practically admitted to not giving a fúck. You say to rebuff autos, then say you use the voted shittest auto available in PvP. You're invalid.