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6/10/2015 8:34:23 PM
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This is like asking do you accept "murdering people as immoral and wrong"
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Not really. You can prove one, the other is a cultural standard invented by man.
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Fact Mudering peeps is immoral Yes?
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It's a fact that most cultures have decided that murdering people is wrong. But you can only prove right and wrong in a social sense. People decided it was wrong, and for good reasons, but that's a social convention. Killing isn't wrong in the same way a brick is red or a brick weighs 4 pounds.
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Not exactly Say people decide that Mudering people is right. K? Everyone is dead in a week. K? For the sake of humanity it's wrong it's a fact
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That's an excellent argument for why it's wrong. But there is nothing inherently wrong about it.
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I just explained...
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You explained how it would be bad for mankind, from the point of view of mankind. Or more accurately, how it would be detrimental. But that doesn't mean it's wrong. What if, to an alien observer, mankind killing each off had some great benefit? Who would be right, and who would be wrong? What if an alien race decided all killing was wrong, even self-defense? That's a moral stance, but you could argue that self defense is an exception. You can't prove morals and social standards the same way you can prove facts. One is subjective, the other objective. You can prove to all men that your front door is four feet wide using a standard unit of measurement, or that it's composed of wood, but you can't prove to all mankind that working on Sundays is wrong.
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Damn...I hate arguing from losing stances...
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You didn't "lose." I think we were just arguing different things. I think killing is wrong. I can make all kinds of arguments to try to show that point of view. But at the end of the day, it's not a fact that it's wrong, it's a fact that we have decided it's wrong. :)
