Just for the sake of debate, my kd ratio in pve is double that of destiny's "best guardian" sc slayerage. The main reason it [i]is[/i] so low is from omnigul arc burn nfall using the titan bubble/thunderlord and ir yut/spam revive to kill her in like 45 seconds. As far as crucible goes, i just started playing it with a competitively 2 months ago and really trying instead of just rushing around like a crazy. Check the more recent history buddyroh. Same kd as sc slayerage who is #1 on destiny tracker in a few stat categories for pvp. I also took a screen shot of a game last wk or wk b4 where i had a 17 kd. 17 kills zero deathz. No im not a beast hell im not even great. I consider myself avg in pvp. But pve? Oh im confident. [spoiler]confident im better than yooooooouuuuuuu :)[/spoiler] OH and ive had 5 ghorns drop total. Dismantled 2. Recorded one dismantle last nite. Put in the hours, then you can deserve the right to bitch. Ive got almost 1700 hours, and i dont believe ive ever once complained about anything the devs have done with destiny.