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6/3/2015 7:06:45 PM
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Forever eater and Qodron still way too hard
I played forever eater at lvl 34 last week after completing POE 28 several times and 32 once. In Forever Eater my team got stuck at Qodron and couldn't defeat him or even get out of the force shield bubble. We tried for probably 4 hours or so to puzzle it out, then quit in frustration (didn't play rest of weekend since I felt cheated). After uploading the fixes, completed nightfal in 45 minutes or so yesterday (would have been much quicker but we all died and got kicked once, oops...!). Then, on to POE 32 Forever Eater, played for 5 hours, most just trying to defeat Qodron', but couldn't do it. While I tried for 5 hours with team mates joining and leaving in frustration several times, total of 7 others had joined me. They were lvl 32-34 players and were all good players. I had the most kills at 303 and middling K/D which fluctuated depending on the strategy we were trying at the time. Invective was crushing the Eye and getting out of bubbles was possible. Several friend requests were sent and received. We commented about how rediculously hard this is versus anything else in the game at level 32 difficulty. Destiny - check my stats, everything I said is truth, please fix this as it is still way to difficult and does not fit with the other lvl 32 difficulty components in the game. It makes me wonder how you could be so far off in the assessment of difficulty that you must have done on this. Perhaps it is because you test everything with in house players that haven't been handicapped by not have a gally? Apparently a team of three with gallys can beat Qodron in under a minute. I won't play this part of the game anymore. Please don't mistake this as whining. Destiny is my favorite game, I love nearly everything in here, but this is so screwed up it compels me the leave this feedback and skip this POE component until fixed. This is NOT a fair challenge consistent with the difficulty rating.
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I just did it in under 30 min with a rag tag team of random weapons one person just focused on the eye and used a shoty while me and my mate just used dragons ( not fully lvld). You talking to each other? We used right side as well.
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Might as well have soloed it. Gonna take weeks for my back to heal up.
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Just hang out on the left, one person deals damage to Qodron directly, one fights off ads, and the third does both jobs (switching back and forth as needed). CALL THE EYE OUT! Call it! Tell everyone where he is. If you're on the left he comes to you so it's pretty easy to find him. Anyone can call it and anyone can kill it. I warn you though, you may kill it early and not have he buff there so just lower his health till Qodron searches, then kill him. Once he's dead call it! Tell the team who has the buff. Once Qodron searches huddle up together and break the bubbles. In case of emergency a hunter can GG a few bubbles, a warlock can bomb them, and a titan can FoH. But call it! This is an activity that REQUIRES communication. You don't want wasted supers.
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3 RepliesYou're absolutely right. This is a worse display of difficulty management than Crota's End was. Fallen 32 boss so easy that every level before it is harder than the boss level. The cabal boss is insanely hard, but did it on my 2nd try, just took friggin' forever. After 3 hours, still couldn't put a dent in Qodron because of how many damn axis hobgoblins there are in the fight. Three level 33 players, 1 hunter and 2 titans. Couldn't drop the hobgoblins remotely fast enough, and killing the eye (when it actually spawned in an accessible area) often resulted in that player getting insta-gibbed by 5-6 line rifles when they step out of hiding to go after the sneaky bastard. No jailbreak for you, that player dead, so you ALL die. Yeah, we don't have maxed weapons because no etheric light to up them, and since carrying all gjally can't use exotic primary or special to help with the OP hobgoblins. You can shotgun them if you can crit at point-blank range, but I guarantee there's 5 more axis hobgoblins that will all fire the moment you kill that first one with a shotty. No, it's not "impossible" but doing VoG hard mode with level 29 players was easier than Qodron 32 with level 33 players. I did VoG at level 29, I did NOT manage to beat Qodron. How the -blam!- is THAT an appropriate difficulty?
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It was easy on 32 this week. Use shot guns. Go to top left corner kill the eye then shotgun out of the bubble, kill adds, focus boss, repeat. You can kill the bubble without the buff now too.
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Solod it, not hard at all
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3 RepliesI just solo'd this twice in order to get my elder cipher completed. It isn't too hard you just don't use the right strategy.
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1 ReplyI hate to tell you this but my team beat Quodron in less than 60 seconds...sorry bro. Get better gear and get better friends.
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That sucks. Sounds like you didn't have the greatest team or strategy going. Since the patch I found it to be easier. My husband and I two manned it last night, didn't take anywhere near 5 hours.
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I will admit this one does talk alot of communication and synchronization unless everyone uses gallys and weapons of light
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2 RepliesThe boss fight is easier than dismantling the mines
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Noob, go play runescape
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At 34 it felt damn near impossible but I beat it this week at 32 in probably 10-15 minutes.
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Theyre not too hard. We're not good enoguh
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Took us about a half hr to beat it with 2 33s, and 32. All our 1st times playing it. We went all the way left at the beginning runs, bad mistake as Qodron can get off middle platform and come for you, the jailbreaker goblin always spawned up by Qodron way too late, so shotgun method didn't pant out consistently. Altho during these few runs, we accidentally discovered A GREAT, SIMPLE, FOOL PROOF workaround to missing the jailbreaker in time, altho it is aVERY SPECIFIC class After we discovered that, we didn't sweat not getting him in time. We also took a test run to the right and found out that's the best place to stage your battle from. Lots of cover over there and jailbreaker is easier to find. I'm not gonna mention the strat we used out in the open because I'm sure it was overlooked when designing and testing, You can message me and I'll tell you. Yes we grouped as close as possible if not all together when detained. On a side note veryone focus firing with shotguns or Ice Breaker works pretty good too if you miss jailbreaker but that's not it either. No its not using SGA on detainment shields either. I'm sure someone else has figured this strat out as well tho, and I'm not sure if it would work ok thr 34 as we didn't do it last week, I don't see why it wouldn't as long as you are leveled appropriately to minimize damage taken. Moving along, I'm the only one with ghorn (365 too), so as they ran to the right corner. I unloaded 7 rounds in to him, popped a synth, used 2 rounds on my way to the corner as adds were everywhere. Hit him with another 5, switched to IB and ash factory with tripod. Teammate 1 used IB and a 331 launcher, teammate 2 used 331 truth and an LDR. I focused on jailbreaker when he came out but didn't stress if we didn't get him. Regardless if I got him or not I went after adds that were immediately near us so they wouldn't bust our ass in detainment, then I'd hit Qodron with crits with IB while the other 2 hailed rockets at him. Just kept doing that. Got on our 1st try to the right corner after 5 or 6 failed attempts on the left. Actually our very 1st run to the left we had him down to 5 percent health but we didn't focus on adds much and jailbreaker goblin kept spawning right next to Qodron merely seconds before detainment. Qodron also came down off the platform right in front of us while detained and was blasting the shit out of us. Just be patient, kill jailbreaker, focus fire on Q until detainment, focus fire again on Q while 1 knocks out adds and locates jailbreaker. Try to kill him as close to detainment time as possible.
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Not hard...they actually buffed jailbreaker! Was harder on 34 but still not impossible..try this... Everyone go far left and use the furthest support column for cover. you need your titan to have the invective with weapons of light. The titan is going to be the add/eye killer, trickle is in effect so he will have to kill in order to build up the ward of dawn. The titan will kill eye and adds while other 2 do damage to the boss using snipers and heavies. When the eye is searching everyone runs to the column groups up and crouches titan should have the buff at this point. Aim invective at the barrier and fire all 4 rounds this should take down all 3 barriers. Afterwards titan pops ward of dawn in the back behind column still other 2 do damage to boss dipping into the bubble when needing to.... titan continues killing adds and eyes...and covering the damage dealers... rinse and repeat...sorry for the terrible grammer and typos...in a hurry...
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I played it for the first time last night and my team was struggling. Looked up helpful hints and found out about the eye of quadron, and straight away we beat it. All it is is one person basically looking for an eye and always having jailbreaker, and then the rest of the time killing minions, letting your team mates crush quadron. Just stay close together so the person with jailbreaker can bust you all out. The Internet is your friend, looking up advice can change your life, with that advice, we would have been stuck on quadron for eternity (maybe not but it felt like it).
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2 RepliesThis can't be serious...before when he was a 34 and before he was nerfed he was still a pushover. Now you can just walk through him on 32. I really hope this is a joke
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I tried to solo the 32. Luckily two people joined at the second to last part.
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1 ReplyEdited by bobbybobbobster: 6/4/2015 2:52:48 PMI did this with me being a 34 and two 33s...ya pop the eye and 1 sniper shot pops the bubble...we stayed clumped on the right side when the bubbles spawn we all stay close and 3 shots take out all the bubbles...have one guy not focus on the boss but rather guard your left flank...throw up gallys until he's dead....it's really easy it took me about 10 minutes to take him out with 2 lvl 33s with me...if they nerfed him it would literally be a piece of cake...even more than it already is...if I can do it with a 34 and two 33s then you should be able to smoke it with the all 34s
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4 RepliesEdited by BlackHudson: 6/4/2015 3:39:41 AMMy mates and I just finished it twice on 2/3 toons. When "Qodron searches for players" we grouped together to only get one containment field. Our team consisted of 32-33's. Weapons in the fire team were: -invective (for eye and containment field) -ice breaker (for boss) -very high impact machine gun (for containment fields) used Deviant Gravity A & Super good Advice - 1 Gally (for boss) but he ran out of heavy synths. -Red Death (for minions and boss) It helps if one of the team keeps a lookout for the eye and kills before grouping together before containment. - Titans fist of havoc is good for damaging the containment field - & reviving a downed player whilst in containment field is also a strategy to get a shield for those precious seconds. -warlocks Rez is also good. But save it if all hope is lost. Hope this helps. :)
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1 ReplyAlso from private comments, Bungie - please add checkpoints through the POE so progress isn't lost.... If any activity is going to take more than an hour for median time of play, a checkpoint is needed. Yes, I said MEDIAN.
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Thanks to everyone that has posted comments on whether or not you see this as difficultly level consistent with other lvl 32 difficultly elements in the game and also to those posting suggestions and tips. Especially those on effective strategy experience and weapons that seem to work well. Cheers!
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2 RepliesI'm about to do 32 if you want in its on XBox360
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1 Reply"And were all good players" I'm sorry but obviously they weren't..
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1 ReplyAdd me on psn if you have a ps4, I'll help you out, ran qudron twice last week and just finished skolas twice this week. Sounds like you may need to run the raids on hard so you can get some better gear.
