that is the same thing as Optional MM in the game;which many guardians and myself are asking for. the only difference is how many buttons we push and time we waste. Optional MM beats Manual MM any day. they already have it for a few modes. why not spread it out to all game modes so all players have a chance at doing all the activities? technically you can already Manual MM by interacting with player but that does not work out so well since there's hardly any players seen in tower or on patrol.

MM would be better if Bungie did it as you should be able to look at stats and such. I would much rather that than risk randomly getting super bads and taking even longer. I have only used lfg once anyway. I mainly do stuff with friends who play

they could easily solve the issue by having a Match Making Setting icon where you can adjust how you want to be match made. so many possibilities it is ridiculous.:)

Nope. The optional MM would be used by the majority of people who will then flock to the forum to cry that everything is too hard and eventually the stuff with the automatic mm will get nerfed to stupid levels as Bungie's stats will show that no one is completing content. But before this stuff gets nerfed there will be a mass exodus of lesser skilled players. After the nerfs the greater skilled players will cry that everything is too easy and they will start a mass exodus. At this point Bungie will realize that they need automatic matchmaking for easy content for lesser skilled players and manual matchmaking for hard stuff for the greater skilled players with an in game lfg tool to use for those purposes. Finally the game will pick up sone more users or it could never recover. Fyi this process has been done by games in the past. There is no reason why Bungie cannot learn from their mistakes.

[quote] The optional MM would be used by the majority of people who will then flock to the forum to cry that everything is too hard [/quote] do you understand what your saying? that is the point of OPTIONAL MM. to choose to either form a team yourself through LFG sites ect. or just click MM. guardians who then use Optional MM would be fully aware of the "horrible" AFC Players. to say this game is too difficult and players will cry is no excuse. how is it that hard? Shoot, Jump, Super, Cover, Rez. all from the PUSH of a few Buttons. Especially with all those Over-Powered Weapons...lol. Again it is OPTIONAL. if you do not want to deal with such players you are more than welcomed to from a Pre-made team. let us make this a choice each guardian can choose between. [quote]At this point Bungie will realize that they need automatic matchmaking for easy content for lesser skilled players and manual matchmaking for hard stuff for the greater skilled players with an in game lfg tool to use for those purposes. [/quote] you do understand i gave the solution to this in a previous comment? have a Match Making Icon to change the Settings. giving way to the ability of adjusting what type of players your looking for. :)

They cannot even include skill for matchmaking opponents in pvp. Do you actually think that they can give you options to get with good players? They would get so much hate. And yes they will cry. You see all the crying over lighthouse right? You obviously have never played a pve game like this before.

they can't or they won't are two different things. they can certainly MM premade teams with other premade teams that have a similar connection status. what do you think we are paying them for? 95$-100$ most players have spent on destiny so far and your telling me they can't work a bit more to make the game Over All better? they most certainly can do such implementations but because of there Philosophy we Players are Suffering the Effects. [quote]Do you actually think that they can give you options to get with good players? They would get so much hate.[/quote] get hate from who? there are countless threads asking for OPTIONAL MM and great reasoning behind it. you make no sense. it is OPTIONAL meaning players that hate have no reason to because nothing is stopping them from going to an LFG site and finding a team :)

1. If they did automatic mm with the option to only get good people everyone would pick that and bads would never find a group. It would cause mass crying and people leaving the game. 2. I'm not talking matching premades with premades and ramdoms with randoms. I'm talking about matching players against each other based on skill that way all modes of pvp are more balanced and enjoyable. It is laughable that the new competitive pvp mode doesnt have mm based on skill. It is in fact a hard thing to measure and even so if you matched people of the same skill in pve it would be disastrous for the bads or only piss off the goods that are expected to carry the bads if it is set to balance the skills. 3. Yes the people asking for the mm are the same ones that will be crying so hard when they can't beat a random grouped lvl 35 PoE. 4. Just because people ask for something doesn't mean it will be good for the game. Games have done this stuff in the past. It will only devalue the content in the long run, but please please disregard people's experience. 5. Remember what they did with valus taur'ac and psion flayers when their stats showed the strikes were not being completed? The same would happen with PoE.

[quote]1. If they did automatic mm with the option to only get good people everyone would pick that and bads would never find a group. It would cause mass crying and people leaving the game. [/quote] its about OPTIONAL MM. we do not want Automatic MM. 1 case closed. [quote]2. I'm not talking matching premades with premades and ramdoms with randoms. I'm talking about matching players against each other based on skill that way all modes of pvp are more balanced and enjoyable.[/quote] you missed my point. if they can do that with MM they can obviously apply different "Modifiers" so to speak to all Optional MM game Modes. that way if your a "pro" you can adjust the setting to be MM with other "Pros". 2 cases closed [quote]Yes the people asking for the mm are the same ones that will be crying so hard when they can't beat a random grouped lvl 35 PoE.[/quote] again if Optional MM is Implemented they could make it suit this game with MM settings. its not Calculus lol. they are the developers, they can make new things happen. LFG sites are Manual MM with RANDOMS....3 cases closed [quote]4. Just because people ask for something doesn't mean it will be good for the game. Games have done this stuff in the past. It will only devalue the content in the long run, but please please disregard people's experience.[/quote] it is OPTIONAL meaning guardians have the choice of making that decision themselves by EXPERIENCING the difference first hand. if they don't like Optional MM after experiencing it first hand in all game modes then that is why its Optional because they could simply go back to the LFG site and continue from there to enjoy the destiny experience. :) please explain how it devalues the content in the long run? do you mean more players will gain access to more game modes and obtain a better understanding of how destiny is failing hard right now? do you not want each guardian to enjoy whatever we have currently of the destiny experience? [quote]5. Remember what they did with valus taur'ac and psion flayers when their stats showed the strikes were not being completed? The same would happen with PoE. [/quote] what are you saying? are you saying having OPTIONAL MM will decrease the number of guardians who complete PoE? if players are having trouble with modes after implementing OPTIONAL MM nothing is stopping those players from using the LFG site and continue to enjoy the game. 5 cases closed.

Yes the moment you can pick pros to be randomly matched with is the moment everyone cries when they get matched with bads instead. And if it know you are bad and lets you not pick to be grouped with pros there will be even more crying. It devalues it as it will get nerfed. The people who refuse to use lfg sites will still refuse to use lfg sites. The stats will show that people can't complete it 90% of the time and it will be nerfed. The people who don't use mm will be the 8% that use premades. The other 2% will be tge actual ones to complete the content unless of course the content is mind numbingly easy. I know how all this works because I have seen this stuff happen before. PoE actually uses the best method of giving the easy difficulty mm and the harder ones not mm. Destiny just needs an in-game lfg, so you don't need to use 3rd party sources.