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Edited by JustOnePepsi: 6/1/2015 4:06:26 PM
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Bungie doesn't understand how firearms work.

Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous. I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."? This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly. http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...) http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png And most Destiny revolvers are like this. http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress. It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version. http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers. So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs. *sigh* http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys! And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why? Maybe Scout Rifles will be better? I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb. http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie! inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense... EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same. To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else... http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv

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  • First time I got a scout rifle I thought it was a joke....I just stared at it trying to figure out how the bullets get to the chamber haha

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  • I think you're taking the game too seriously.

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  • My theory ( that I'm stealing from someone else) is that the magazines that we put into the gun are just glimmer canisters. Just take a look at the new scout rifles, how does the bullet get to the barrel. Cause it's programable matter. It's transported when a program goes to the clip, telling it to create another bullet and send it to the chamber. With hand cannons, the cartridge that you put into it is a cartridge of glimmer. This can also explain why if you switch from a hand cannon to pulse rifle, you still have ammunition, with the inevitable loss of some glimmer.

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    • Edited by Wazum: 5/26/2015 12:01:19 AM
      Because in Destiny ammo is really transmatted into the gun and fired. Notice many of the new HoW guns look like autism but in firearm form. The guns from day one looking [u]kinda[/u] like normal guns was just a formality. Like female exo having boobs.

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    • Edited by DrexlZenith: 5/25/2015 5:25:41 PM
      Space magic. Your right. In real life they would be non functional. I'm guessing that the designs were made more for looks than anything. If you wanted to get real technical in a futuristic space magic setting...then here is a quasi explanation. Using space magic...the light of the traveler...glimmer is used as ammunition. This matter, according to the grimoire can be changed and manipulated as needed/desired. All a gun would "need" is a place to store glimmer, a converting mechanism, and an exit point. The cylinder for hand cannons as well as the hammer would be added as a mere aesthetic, to a former era. Perfect example is The Last Word. It could explain how your able to fit 13 rounds in a tiny hand cannon cylinder. Hawkmoon and so fourth. Just my thoughts...about the far advanced sci fi video game guns that use space magic. Lol. No hate. Edit. Since you seem to know your guns. Is there a reason for having the revolver fire the bottom round versus the top? I saw the vid you put up of the Italian 357. It was neat, and was wondering it say had less recoil because there would be more weight on top of the barrel? Real question, I'm not much of a gun guy.

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      • The magazine on scout rifles drives me crazy.

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      • I know right! And the way Bungie lets blade dancers go invisible is so unrealistic! Everyone knows you have to crouch 5 seconds to go invisible, not 3.

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      • You're playing a fictional game with space wizards space Cowboys and space tanks that fight alien races. Are you retarded or does this just matter this much to you?

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      • I agree with you. I've tried to explain to some people but I get the response that "it's just a game" I my mind it should still be plausible if you are basing it on real world weapons... Hand cannon barrels drive me nuts. Nicely written post.

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        • Edited by necrotitan464: 5/25/2015 10:55:42 PM
          And a weapon that shoots giant spikes that are half the size of the gun are realistic Guardians coming back from the dead is realistic Thin, basically pajama like armour blocking bullets is realistic Certain armour effecting certain guardians super human abilities is realistic Destiny was never meant to be realistic

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        • Edited by Destroyer29992: 5/26/2015 5:07:16 AM
          Didn't know they had exact same gun design in the future where you can fly in a spaceship.....

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        • Take a number sir. You're #43,569. You'll be after the customization ideas but before the npcs in the field ideas.

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        • I hear ya. However I've heard of bullpup rifles which resemble some of these, so maybe...I don't know.

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          • "It's just a game; I should really just relax."

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          • Man youre right, they should have done it realistically like the traveller. giant god ball

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          • I thought the same after I saw Tirmur's Lash.

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          • 1000

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          • If you're really so upset about fake weapons in a sci-fi video game that you go through all the trouble to make this whole post, then that's just -blam!-ing pathetic.

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          • Just wanted to be comment number 1000....

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          • It's called "The traveler"

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          • But of course, properly designed hand cannons are a ps4 exclusive.

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          • Lol m8 its a made up game

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          • looking to finish story on my 3rd character (ps4) if interested in helping msg RamsNation01, at lv10.

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          • You forgot about the constant grenades that shoot out electricity and purple shit that come out of ass every 2 mins

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          • Edited by Spikedlemonade: 5/25/2015 8:14:30 PM
            I don't think I'm seeing problem Look up the Chiappa rhino, it has a "mock hammer" on top that allows you to ready the actual hammer as if it's a single action, but can still be fired just by pulling the trigger

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          • They like firefighters?

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