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Edited by Kreis:
7/28/2015 2:55:26 PM
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Re-Buff Auto Rifles Completely! Poll.
So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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12 RepliesPoll Is completely biased. Thread is therefore irrelevant
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1 ReplyEdited by Lethenza: 5/5/2015 1:00:25 PMIf they were buffed it would fix Destiny's last remaining balance issue.
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Maybe even buff a little over 2.5!
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They turned auto rifles into what pulse rifles were ... Don't make no sense!
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YES Please. At least to compete with the last word. No wait that will never happen!
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5 RepliesThe precision AR's aren't too bad, suros can still kill so I think AR's should be buffed by 50% or 70% of what it used to be. It can compete very well this way. I think you guys forgot that low rof high damage rifles were getting abused just like how exotic hand cannons are getting abused now. Before they nerf hand cannons (They definitely will, it's game breaking) They should buff the AR's for people that don't have good aim.
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They shouldn't be rebuffed [b]completely[/b], but the last nerf should definitely be reverted. If ARs went back to what they originally were, every other weapon would be outclassed again.
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It's not as much the guns as it is the exotics. Understandably they're the best, but with the ease of access Bungie created for TLW and Red Death everybody has it, so everybody dies from it, so everybody uses it. We need a non-exotic Crucible mode. If they tested that out they would see the actual weapon balance and could adjust accordingly.
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... Why did you think your poll/thread was more important than the 100s of others on the same topic?
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Holy crap, look at the poll results! I think it's safe to say for once the community seems to agree on something. Look at those numbers bungie, it's time to bring AR's back. I understand your reasoning for the nerf but look what it did. Pre patch it was nothing but AR's and hand cannons, now it's pulse rifles and hand cannons. All you did was take one FotM weapon and turn it into another. Gives us our variety back please.
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2 RepliesAssault rifles need a buff don't get me wrong but I don't think they need to be where they were because they [u]were[/u] OP. A more moderate buff is in order. That's what I really hate about these threads is everyone says they want there AR to be back to OP again and don't leave you with the option of the middle ground.
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2 RepliesMy Suros sucked in Iron Banner this go around. Used to do quite well with it- forced to use thorn (yuck) and Vex (still OP). I might as well use my assault rifles for toothpicks.
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Edited by schoat333: 5/5/2015 12:22:41 PMI only used auto rifles in PvP, and I don't play that much. I really don't care either way.
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Auto rifles are my favorite weapons to use, sadly I haven't used them since the nerf.
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1 ReplyI wouldn't worry too much, a buff will be on the way very soon, Bungie surely are not complete idiots. (Wait a minute..)
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Bump bump bumpity bump. Stellar work my friend. I completely agree
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1 Reply[quote]So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore? TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill. Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill. Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill. Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise ) Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range. If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no. The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player. If you agree, select the "Yes" If you don't, select the "No" and give me a valid reason on why they should not be buffed. First Edit: Do any of you veteran players still have your Shadow Price? I remember how well I used to do with it. I would love to use it in the upcoming House of Wolves DLC and not have it completely suck. Second Edit: @2 Puss- I mean People who selected the second option, thank you for complying to add a half-decent argument with your post as well! Have a splendid day sucking on your Thorns and Red Deaths like some retarded animals. This does not mean I am complaining about Red Death and Thorn, rather insulting them for most likely not wanting an Auto Rifle nerf because they're scared about it being finally balanced. Current Top Tier Primarys: Red Death / Bad JuJu ( 2hk Thorn / The Last Word / (Hawk for PSN) ( 2hk Mida Multi-Tool / Vesta Dynasty possibly / Fate of all Fools possibly ( 4hk/3hk w/ Great FR & Range As I have already said, [i]Suros Regime, Hard Light and Necrochasm are probably the most underwhelming exotics this game has ever had as of the Auto Rifle nerf.[/i] Edit 3: Overwhelming votes towards re-buffing Auto Rifles, glad to see reasoning in the forums. Edit 4: Ay for reaching 339, in memorial of the biggest Destiny disappointment, ( Necrogasm ) - I had to make this edit. My Necrogasm would be proud. One day you will pop all the heads off my enemies in the Crucible.. ONE DAY.. Edit 5: Shout out to [b]Doctor[/b] Dope[b]Nope[/b], [b]Shadow Price[/b], [b]Hex Caster ARC [/b]and [b]Grim Citizen III[/b]! Looking forward to a buff releasing along with House of Wolves to make me hyped to use those beastly guns! Edit 6: Shout out to [b]Silimar's Wrath[/b], [b]For the People[/b],[b] Payback SOS[/b], [b]Do [/b]very much [b]Gooder V [/b]and [b]Up for anything![/b] Edit 7: Upon discussion, it had been decided to keep the range nerfs that were placed on AR's but restore them back to the prime damage they had before the nerf.[/quote] Bump
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3 RepliesNo they shouldn't be buffed to their former glory because they shit on everything in the crucible back then. Although I do believe they need a buff because right now they're weak sauce and aren't really good for anything.
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What about that vex tho? That thing is OP as -blam!- now
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Hand cannons are fine. They do not need to be nerfed. [i]Exotic[/i] hand cannons need to be changed.
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4 RepliesOption: buff ARs but not to their former glory. Maybe 75% of what they used to be
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Last word can 2 shot to the head while aiming with the glitch that gives it the multiplier while aiming
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I miss my grim citizen dearly.
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