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5/2/2015 4:11:29 PM
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Reading through all the replies i see a common trait with the OP. 1) Puts out false biased information from biased non-credible sources. 2) Counter argues with illogical biased information. 3)Gets excited when other incorrect biased religious people comment. (The select answer is someone else who is wrong and biased towards religion) 4) Whenever someone counter argues him, like a typical biased religious person he avoids most of it and counter argues 1 portion of it taking it out of context. 5) [b][u]Completely ignores the fact he contradicted himself and in his own words shouldn't believe in God.[/u][/b] If you really have any intentions of having a debate with someone you need to have an open mind which you don't. Science isn't biased and uses factual information and before anything in science is deemed credible there is a process for it.
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  • [quote]...in his own words shouldn't believe in God.[/quote]Quote me.

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  • Okay. And you've quoted nothing I stated?

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  • Your entitled to your opinion and express it. I was just highlighting the fact your wrong and majority of the post below prove that as well. [i]But what do we know, we aren't graced by God, we are all biased by science and close minded[/i].

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/2/2015 7:35:30 PM
    [quote]Your entitled to your opinion and express ion. I was just highlighting the fact that your wrong.[/quote]You still haven't quoted two things I said, which would have one conclude, "Hey, look, a hypocrite."

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  • Edited by DemonWarfare: 5/2/2015 7:40:14 PM
    [quote]He exists because Evolution can't.[/quote]Your whole counter argument on Evolution is you can't observe it, yet you can't observe God and you believe that. Your contradicting yourself.[quote]Without such a demonstrated creative process, evolution is merely a story, because [b]its supposed mechanism can neither be duplicated in a laboratory nor observed in nature.[/b][/quote]Those two things that are bolded you can't do with God. Evolution not being real isn't an explanation for why you believe in God.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/4/2015 6:03:58 AM
    Evolutionists have no cause for the origin of organic life. God, by definition, is stated to be eternal, and [b]logically[/b], there needs to be a cause for every existing factor. Then what's God's cause? Because He is eternal (having no beginning or end), he has no cause. That's why it is stated that He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Many people have come to this understanding, but they decided to compromise and blend the views in order to provide an explanation to the evolutionary dilemma of organic origins and the origins of intelligence and complexity (Deism, neither Christian nor Atheism).

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  • You can't observe or test him and thats your whole basis for not believing evolution. You still haven't explained your contradiction

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  • [quote]You still haven't explained your contradiction.[/quote]Once again, you've quoted no contradiction that I've stated, and you fail to see my reasoning. God, being eternal, is obviously not a test subject to observe. You then ask, "Then what evidence do you have of God even existing?" Naturally, we know that evolution itself has no explanation as to the origin of organic life manifesting from non-organic material (even Britton stated to me, "The study of abiogenesis has no explanation as to how yet."). Evolution also has no explanation as to the origin of why nature would ever need to breed intelligence in only one species, and how (no matter how much time) evolution breeds species to evolve into a new form of species without as many as having even 1,000 of transitional fossils per species . Then I assume, "God possibly?" since we know that life on Earth needed a cause, and God has no cause because, by definition, He is eternal. Then you may ask, "What justifies this fact?" and I'll respond by saying, "The Bible," and then you would arrogantly respond by saying, "What makes the Bible authentic and not a book just written by man?" to which I would respond, "It's content." to which you would say, "Well that's stupid. You can't source yourself." and then I'll explain by saying, "The Bible itself states that it was written by men endowed by the Holy Spirit of God. If anything was written by man and man alone, would there not be a perfidious motive for man? The Bible promotes God and only God, and it states that there is no other God except Him. "The Book of Moroni teaches polygamy is legal, God was once a man like us, works promote our salvation, and we will eventually be a god of our own planet and have an infinite amount of sex with our loved one(s), like God did when He had Jesus Christ. This is a highly damnable fallacy. The Catholic Church promoted the Apocrypha about 30 years after Martin Luther debunked it with the Ninety-five Thesis explaining their fallacy since the Catholic Church promoted salvation by works, the forgiveness of sins by priests, the celibacy of the Catholic priesthood, the deistic homage toward Mary, the holiness of the Pope, and more. This is a highly damnable fallacy, and how one can determine a faith to be not legit is to find whether it possesses a perfidious motive which would usually be through monetary or physical gain (The Catholic Church) or psychological self-appeasement to one's state in their version of the acclaimed after-life (The Doctrine of Mormonism). "The Bible alone, without all that additive crap, which was added to change the canon, is the [b]only[/b] text in the world that does not call one to a state of self-fulfillment, but to a state of self-denial; and so, it could not have been written by man since it didn't have the intent in the first place to appease men, but instead, it promotes throughout the entire text an individual who you believe to be our Flying Spaghetti Monster, God. If it was written by man alone, it would have at least provided some gain to an individual on Earth (e.g., The Pope or The Catholic Church) or a well-appeasing infinite carnality desire (e.g., spiritual sex or earthly polygamy in Mormonism). "To summarize, evolution has no origin so God must exist in order for life to begin to have complexity, intelligence, and organic life. [spoiler]Note: Darwin doubted the origin of complexity even in his studies written in chapter 6 of [i]On the Origin of Species[/i][/spoiler]Everything has a cause but God doesn't since He's eternal. The Bible is true because it was evidently not written by man with the intent of appeasing men, and it promotes only God and exhibits every human, even the prophets as flawed creatures that were justified for eternal damnation." You asked for an explanation as to my reasoning, and this is me restating almost the whole thinking behind Christian theology. I'm not "shoving it down your throat" since you only asked for more information, and this is me stating again that there is no contradiction as to why God is biblically substantiated, and even through the bulk of all scientific reasoning, evolution has it's flaws. Please, keep an open mind and continue to discern.

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  • Edited by DemonWarfare: 5/3/2015 8:49:11 AM
    Okay thats what i was looking for. While I don't agree with everything at least i understand your thought process and the way you described everything it is not contradicting in context to your beliefs. The assumptions about atheist weren't necessary but i understand why those were there also.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/2/2015 7:32:11 PM
    [quote]...we are all biased by science and close minded.[/quote]?

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  • [quote][i]But what do we know, we aren't graced by God, we are all biased by science and close minded[/i].[/quote] Sarcasm, theist think atheist are close minded because of science.

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  • I don't need to, your entire OP shows your lack of understanding science as well as any of your replies. Every counter argument against you highlights this as well and last but not least, you still ignore [b][u]#5[/u][/b].

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/5/2015 1:30:31 PM
    Here we go again:[quote]...in his own words shouldn't believe in God.[/quote]Quote me, please. If their isn't one, don't reply.

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