I have read this all and I understand where your coming from I'm not saying you are wrong nor am I saying I agree. I'm really busy over the next 3 days and will not have time to explain my views completely. I respect your views completely however I don't share your opinion. I feel the conversation is starting to go around in circles anyway, because I disagree that time exists so being outside of it does not mean you have the ability to simply exist. Its been a nice conversation and you've brought up some valid points. That being said you have in no way swayed my opinion on the matter. Nice speaking to you.