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5/2/2015 1:34:22 PM
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I do not have the time to write a response to the entirety of that much like I had no time to reply to the entirety of the original post. So in short you are correct there is no explanation for how it all started as far as science is concerned. However just because science gives no answer and the bible does give an answer does not make the bibles answer correct. You see small scale evolution in England its very apparent. Go back 3 generations and many English men worked in mines. The average height of a white English male is good chunk taller now than it was before. Yes this isn't long scale yes this is just a reverse of them getting smaller to fit in the mines. Humans won't evolve much if it all now at least not in a permanent way. Much like the sharks haven't evolved much since the time of the dinosaurs. Because we have no predators so their I no natural selection. The smart humans generally produce 1-3 if any children and many less intelligent humans have upwards of 5. I believe if anything the human race will devolve. As to your question of would I love a disabled person the answer is probably no. You do realise its only positive genetic mutations that improve a species. Missing a chromosome ect. Will not improve the human species so your argument is irrelevant.
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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/2/2015 2:27:23 PM
    [quote]So in short you are correct there is no explanation for how it all started as far as science is concerned. [/quote]This is... ...Why I Say No to Evolution: (1) Evolution has no explanation as to it's own origin. As evident in the explanation provided above, and whenever I research from an atheistic perspective, there are either complications or conflicting stories. Evidently, Atheists try to explain this, but are never under the same conclusion. (2) Darwin stated, "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I confess, absurd in the highest degree...The difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection , though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered subversive of the theory." Darwin himself made a point as to the complexity of biology self-developing or evolving into something better from acclaimed simpler beginnings. Remember the watch scenario by Sylux102? It perfectly exhibits this mysterious scenario completely. I can't believe I didn't think of such a metaphoric situation, but please, do try to explain the complexity. (3) What if there was a deity? You yourself Demonwarfare stated, "There's always a chance, no matter how small it may be." What if it was God Himself? ...and then you say, "What? From the Bible, all of it is nothing but a bunch of bull." Okay then. Would you have it rather say, "In the beginning, a cosmic force evidently defying the natural laws of time and space in a manner well-reserved specifically for the development on life on a small planet which will inevitably called Earth (God) proceeded to make the biological manifestation of Higgs' boson with a spiritual Large Hadron Collide (created the heaven's and the Earth)" (Genesis 1:1)? Everyone should understand what this is since all of humanity is considered smart enough to know what this means, even to 6000 years ago. Perhaps, all you needed was the Bible to talk like you. Instead of like a wit-less human will under no compulsion to follow in order of living. Since God, by definition, is the creator of the whole universe, He is the creator of time; therefore, He is not limited by the time dimension He created. So He has no beginning in time, and the Bible concurs that God is the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15); therefore, He doesn't have a cause.

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  • I have read this all and I understand where your coming from I'm not saying you are wrong nor am I saying I agree. I'm really busy over the next 3 days and will not have time to explain my views completely. I respect your views completely however I don't share your opinion. I feel the conversation is starting to go around in circles anyway, because I disagree that time exists so being outside of it does not mean you have the ability to simply exist. Its been a nice conversation and you've brought up some valid points. That being said you have in no way swayed my opinion on the matter. Nice speaking to you.

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