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5/1/2015 6:21:31 AM
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While eloquently written, many people of the scientific community have reviewed Johnson's work and have concluded that he misinterpreted almost every source in his work [i]Darwin on Trial[/i], one going so far as to say it was the most deceptive book he'd ever read. I'm guessing this is an excerpt from [i]Darwin on Trial[/i], yes? Please correct me if it is not.
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  • Of course they're going to say hes wrong. That means a lot of their work was pointless if they agree that evolution cannot explain things.

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  • Perhaps their theories cover evolution thoroughly (which they do), and Johnson is simply building his support for Intelligent Design, a movement which he spearheaded. Furthermore. [i]Darwin on Trial[/i] was written in 1991 (if I am not mistaken, gonna fact-check that), so our understanding of evolution is even more fleshed out and supported.

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  • Or perhaps not. There's always the possibility that they are wrong.

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  • There is always the possibility that we are all wrong. There is the possibility that this is all a dream. That does not mean this is a dream. Therefore, just because it is possible we are wrong, does not mean we are wrong. Furthermore, just because macroevolution is supported by scientific fact does not mean that God had no hand in it. People act as if both things are mutually exclusive. I don't understand how many Christians cannot see evolution as God's tool for creation.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/2/2015 7:48:09 PM
    If this was a dream, we would never get the notion at all that we were in one.

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  • When ur in a dream in that moment you don't know its a dream

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  • Exactly.

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  • ...but that's my point. We don't know, and the possibility with the least amount of assumptions should be trusted. (•-• )

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  • [quote]...the possibility with the least amount of assumptions should be trusted.[/quote]Bad advice. Correction: The truth with no resistance should be trusted.

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  • I am simply following Occam's Razor, a principle created to solve problems. It essentially states that between two principles that hold up equally well, the one with the least assumptions should be considered more correct. We don't know anything to be completely true. There are an infinite amount of possibilities in the universe. There is the possibility that I am a figment of your subconscious mind. There is another possibility that I am a computer program. Therefore, we should hold nothing to be true. In that case, we should trust the 'reality' with the least assumptions. The more we base our theories on reality on our observations, the more they should be trusted. If we [i]assume [/i]something to be true, it is not backed up by evidence, but can be equally logically sound.

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  • I'm just saying its a possibility sir.

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  • And that is true, it is a possibility. But I'm sure you've heard of Occam's Razor.

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  • No. It's justified: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/93641-to-suppose-that-the-eye-with-all-its-inimitable-contrivances

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  • Keep in mind that Charles Darwin was also a Christian. Our understanding of evolution has proceeded so much further than in his time. Simply because Charles Darwin said those words does not validate the argument against macroevolution, which we have plenty of evidence for, especially since the writing of [i]Darwin on Trial.[/i] You have not addressed my inquiry of where the quote was from, either.

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  • No, he was a theologian, and no, he was never a Christian (1 John 2:19).

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  • Charles Darwin, was at some point, [url=http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/what-did-darwin-believe-article]considered a Christian[/url]. Let me be more clear: Is your text in the original post from [i]Darwin on Trial[/i] or not? Your bible quote has nothing to do with what I inquired about.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/4/2015 6:15:39 AM
    No to your question, and why is there nothing in the link?

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  • Hm, could've sworn I linked something. Are you on mobile? Because I'm getting the same issue on mobile.

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