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Edited by SSG ACM:
5/1/2015 1:17:05 AM
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The article above explained that in order for even micro-evolution to develop, the same environmental hazards have to be currently existing to keep the genetics from reversing. If Evolution is true, those hazards have to exist now, but they aren't. It is apparent in the world, but not in the studies of Evolution.
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Evolution thought of in a point A to B sort of way where there is a foward or reverse isn't realivent to the theory of evolution because evolution is active. Evolution is not linear, however it appears so in retrospect. Evolution is reactive or as I like to think of it, circumstantial.
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You're basing off the fact that evolution can reverse off of what? If you believe that everything is in a full motion forward, what will humans evolve into next?
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Circumstantially, it can reverse.
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The reason there had been such a vast number of species, 99% of all species to ever exist are now extinct, is because the hazards are always different. The different hazards means that creatures will evolve very differently situation to situation. The article is simply wrong. Almost every creationist website argument relies on a general ignorance of science.
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He's too far gone, don't bother arguing.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/1/2015 1:20:56 AMReally? I thought it was because of a flood.
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A basic understanding of geology quickly shows the flood as impossible. And for how creationist love to state the laws of thermodynamics, they sure do ignore them when it comes to the flood.
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What conflicts? The Bible stated that in those days rain never came to the earth (Genesis 2:5-6). Some Christians like to argue against it, but the Bible validated itself in that passage.
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Why do you never question whether the Bible is true? I don't care what the bible says, geology (the science that deals with the dynamics and physical history of the earth, the rocks of which it is composed, and the physical, chemical, and biological changes that the earth has undergone or is undergoing) does not even mention a world wide flood. Water can't just be added by rain, that is not how the water cycle works. I mean we learned about this stuff in like 2nd grade.
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The bible validates itself? Are you serious? There is not enough water on earth in the air, oceans and ice to even flood more than half of the visible land mass. For the flood to happen not only would matter had to have been created, it would have to also be destroyed. Congrats, the laws you incorrectly use to try to disprove evolution, actually do disprove the biblical flood. Irony.
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[quote]The bible validates itself? Are you serious?[/quote]When Deists argue against it, yes, I'm serious.
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The bible cant validate itself just like the book The Lorax can't validate the existence of a lorax. And what about everything else I said?
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I'm not wasting my time on this. Evolution is real. You don't have to have the same conditions forever. That'd actually prevent evolution because there would be no need to change. I have more important things to do than argue with someone who can be proven wrong by a simple google search. Good bye
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It doesn't matter, natural selection just wouldn't occur at first. Mutations would still happen. If that mutation provides a strong benefit, then natural selection takes over.
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Can you say that we are evolving today, as human beings into something more?
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Yeah, we are constantly evolving.
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Into what?
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Evolution is a process that take thousands of years, you compare the first generation with the last, if they are a different species then evolution has occurred. We are constantly adapting, we don't just jump to a different species, it takes many many years.
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[quote]Can you say that we are evolving today, as human beings into something more?[/quote] Classic gnostic thinking. You seem to think all things lead to some form of ascension. That's not what it's about. It's merely about survival by what works. It's not a move upward, backward, sideways, or any other direction. It just is.
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Recent: 1) Ability to drink milk 2) Losing our wisdom teeth 3) Brains getting smaller 4) Blue eyes
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/1/2015 5:22:46 AMWhy? And seriously, milk? That's one of your basis?
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Edited by Bloom Unknown : 5/1/2015 6:16:46 AM1) Yes, milk. Is it so hard to believe that we early generations didn't drink another animals milk until we started farming cattle? Early humans weaned off of their mothers milk and naturally were lactose-intolerant. Those with higher tolerances gained a reproductive advantage (probably lived longer and stronger because of better nutrition). You are willing to believe in a 2,000 year old book of unverifiable tales of magic, but this is hard to believe? 2) Our diet used to consist of tougher foods before tools were invented to chop food smaller and tenderize it. Our jaws are getting smaller because we don't work them like we used to, no room means less teeth. Wisdom teeth don't fit. 3) There are different theories as to why the brain is getting smaller. A smaller brain is tied to higher efficiency and social, unselfish tendencies. We are the most social, interdependent animals to ever exist. 4) Blue eyes were simply a mutation that survived via natural selection.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/1/2015 10:32:33 PM(1) Humans can drink anything they want, and either live or die depending on the liquid. Being able to drink a new liquid is not really an example of evolution but an example of having the choice of drinking something other than the usual refreshments one finds enjoyable. (2) We have teeth and hands to make what tools are necessary, and a brain to know how to use them. We didn't eat like a zombie. Does it really appear that our face "evolved" from such a state? (3) Someone observes that are brains are getting smaller, and we conclude that it is an example of evolution, even though the brain remains to be a brain, and not anything else. (4) http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/93641-to-suppose-that-the-eye-with-all-its-inimitable-contrivances
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[quote](1) Humans can drink anything they want, and either live or die depending on the liquid.[/quote] Just want to make sure you read this again. You realize this is nonsense and irrelevant, right?
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Edited by Bloom Unknown : 5/1/2015 10:57:49 PMYou are missing the point, willfully or not: 1) Most humans literally could not drink cow milk because we simply never did until we started farming. Maybe you don't understand the time span? Yes, we can drink whatever and face the consequences, but the point is that certain people were more tolerant of cow milk and gained an evolutionary advantage. This wasn't dominant for thousands of years but became dominant, meaning the majority of humans were genetically different to humans before them. 2) Again, maybe you don't understand the time span? The jaw had gotten smaller, hence less teeth can fit. Why? Because our diet and eating practices changed over tens of thousands of years. 3) Evolution is the same process of any scale. The environment affects genetics, it isn't that hard to understand. It isn't "an example of evolution" it simply [i]is[/i] evolution as we know it .4) First, you can't be serious to think the eye is perfect, right? Our eyes adapted like everything else to help us survive in our environment, so did the hawk's eye, they are very different from each other so which is perfect? Answer: neither, and both; neither is perfect for every individuals, while both are most nearly perfect for the purpose of adaptation. It wasn't but 10,000 years ago the first blue eye was formed from a mutation. I don't mean to be rude, but were you being serious? Honestly, I can't tell.
