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Evolution is a fact, but...

Evolution is a fact only at a very small scale. It is fantasy when it is used to explain how plants and animals came into existence or how human beings supposedly evolved from apelike ancestors. We might summarize the fantasy by saying that, where the theory of evolution is true, it is not very interesting, and where it is most interesting, it is not true. If “evolution” merely refers to a process of cyclical (back and forth) variation in response to changing environmental conditions, then evolution is a fact that can be observed both in nature and in laboratory experiments. For example, when a population of insects is sprayed with a deadly chemical like DDT, the most susceptible insects die but the individuals most resistant to the poison survive to breed and leave offspring, which inherit the genes that provide resistance. After many generations of insects have been sprayed, the entire surviving population may be comprised of the DDT-resistant variety, and some new form of insect control will have to be applied. Such changes are not permanent, however, because the resistant mosquitoes are more fit than the others only for as long as the insecticide is applied. When the environment becomes free of the toxic chemical, the insect population tends to revert to what it was before. A similar effect explains how disease-causing bacteria become resistant to antibiotic drugs like penicillin, which then are no longer as effective in controlling the disease as they formerly were. Almost all illustrations of “evolution in action” in textbooks or museum exhibits are similar to these examples. They involve no increase in complexity or appearance of new body parts or even permanent change of any kind. Small-scale, reversible population variations of this sort are usually called microevolution, although “adaptive variation” would be a better term. It is misleading to describe adaptive variation as “evolution,” because the latter term commonly refers also to macroevolution. Macroevolution is the grand story of how life supposedly evolved by purely natural processes from very simple beginnings to become complex, multicelled plants and animals, and eventually human beings, without God’s participation being needed at any step along the way. Charles Darwin assumed that macroevolution was merely microevolution extended over very long periods of time. Biology textbooks, museums, and television programs still teach people to make the same assumption, so that examples of microevolution are used as proof that complex animals and even human beings evolved from simpler organisms by a similar process. The primary flaw in the story of macroevolution is that all plants and animals are packed with information—the complicated instructions that coordinate the many processes enabling the body and brain to function. Even Richard Dawkins, the most famous living advocate of Darwin’s theory, admits that every cell in a human body contains more information than all the volumes of an encyclopedia, and every one of us has trillions of cells in his or her body, which have to work together in marvelous harmony. The greatest weakness of the theory of evolution is that science has not discovered a process that can create all the necessary information, which can be likened to the software that directs a computer. Without such a demonstrated creative process, evolution is merely a story, because [b]its supposed mechanism can neither be duplicated in a laboratory nor observed in nature.[/b] It is true that there are patterns of similarity among living creatures. For example, humans, apes, mice, worms, and even plants have many similar genes. The important question is not whether there are similarities among all living things but whether those similarities came about through a natural process akin to the observable examples of adaptive variation that we find in textbooks and museum exhibits. One mistake Christians often make in debating evolution is to take on too many issues at once, rather than starting with the most important problem and solving it first. For example, evolution requires a time scale of many millions of years, while many people understand the Bible to allow for an earth history of only a few thousand years. The evolutionary time scale is debatable, but debating it involves several complex scientific disciplines and distracts attention from the most important defect of the theory of evolution. The only mechanism the evolutionists have is a combination of random variation and natural selection, illustrated by the survival of the insects that happened to be resistant to an insecticide. [b]This Darwinistic mechanism has never been shown to be capable of creating new genetic information[/b] or new complex body parts such as wings, eyes, or brains. Without a mechanism that can be demonstrated to be capable of the necessary creation, the theory of evolution is just a fantasy with no real scientific basis. The Bible teaches, “In the beginning God created” and “In the beginning was the Word.” A simple way of explaining this basic principle is to say that a divine intelligence existed before anything else and that intelligence was responsible for the origin of life and for the existence of all living things, including human beings. [b]No matter how much time we might allow for evolution to do the necessary creating, the evidence shows that the process would never get started[/b] because all evolution can do is to further minor variations in organisms that are already living, without any change in their basic classification. When the Bible says, “In the beginning God created” (Gen 1:1), it is presenting us with a fact, which we need to know to understand everything else, including what we were created for and how God wants us to live. The Bible also says that God created men and women in His own image. That, too, is a fact. If it were not true, there would be no science, because [b]no theory of evolution can demonstrate how intelligence came into existence[/b], including the intelligence of misguided people who misuse science to try to explain creation without allowing any role to God. “In the beginning was the Word.” The Bible says it and, properly understood, the evidence of science confirms it. Anyone who says otherwise is peddling fantasy, not fact.

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  • You seem to confusing evolution with abiogenesis. They are not the same.

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    • Go to reddit to talk about this shit... Fag...

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      • In short words Darwin never compensated for massive amounts of change from complex organisms like humans, going from hunter gathers to a space bearing age in a short time period of time.

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        • Very interesting

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          • Tl;dr

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            • I have a question. So when animals evolve, lets take us for example... We were descendant from apes and we slowly evolved into humans. What were we in the middle stages? Hunched over apes? Disformed animals? Animals adapt to nature. If a fish in its middle stages grew wings but couldn't fly yet would mean it had useless wings which wouldn't be adapting at all. It would be making it worse. If we used to be hunched over apes how could we survive if we were downgraded apes? Wouldn't we go extinct because we honestly wouldn't belong in nature? I thought our ape evolution would make us more intelligent and more adaptive not downgraded... Our whole bodily system would be messed up... Also why don't we see middle staged evolved apes right now? Why don't we have fossils of middle staged apes?

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              • You are wrong in so many levels my friend.

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                • Evolution doesn't explain how anything came into existence. It explains the diversity of life on the planet. Your whole post is garbage idiocy.

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                  • Yeah, I would think this if I never leaned to think for myself....

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                    • Congratulations, it looks like you understand more than a lot of the people on these forums.

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                      • Hey bro, does it truly matter I mean IDC if we evolved or if a god created us I don't really care either way in all truth if a god exists then damn him, if nature created us...then its a good thing I can light it on fire for giving us all people like you

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                        • U r misinformed, k?

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                          • Edited by Mighty Albatross: 5/12/2015 10:29:56 PM
                            Your main argument, although extremely well thought out (it is the best one I've seen, and I thought it was interesting so thank you for making it), is based around several statements. There are 4 problems with your points. I will start with the first two. Some things never go away. It will probably be beneficial for a very long time for mountain goats to be good at climbing mountains. The second problem goes hand in hand with the first: if there is no reason for the insects sprayed with DDT to stop being resistant to it then they probably won't since the ones who are resistant will simply continue to pass on the genes. Next I think it is important to mention the fact that the reason why we only have observable modern examples for micro evolution is because macro evolution takes millions of years. Darwin's theories haven't been around that long so we simply haven't been looking for proof. We can, however, see fossil records of trilobites that look distinctly different appear over several million years if you really want an observable example. Finally I don't think you understand just how long of a time roughly 3 billion years is (the estimated time of how long ago the first life forms appeared). This is a really, really, really long time. Over millions of generations of organisms it is completely possible to see such complex genetic code develop. If you don't think so, refer to the first sentence in this paragraph. Seriously. And think of in the beginning when all life consisted of single celled organisms that might reproduce asexually every few hours to days (going off of data from modern day plankton). That's a lot of generations for genetic diversity to occur.

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                          • Best thing about atheism? Takes up so little of my time.

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                            • Humans evolving from apes, and sharing a common ancestor with Chimpanzees is a fact.

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                              • Then all the gods exist. Then

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                                • Edited by Jack sparrow from the hood: 5/12/2015 8:33:32 PM
                                  Matter can't be destroyed or created but can change because of this I always though the Big Bang as a reset switch. Matter returns to base form eventually turns into different atoms. different atoms turn into different chemicals. Chemical reactions result in different organic and inorganic Creations. (Suns,planets and on some planets simple life) Simple life such as a early mitochondria like single cell bacteria accidentally starts commensalism with another single cell bacteria. This results in the first multi-cell bacteria. Multiplies and some pack together forming what you could say is similar to a man o'war. From this evolution would slowly start random trial and error that starts to get more precise resulting into what we have now. However this is just My thought on the matter. All hail the mighty mitochondria the true powerhouse of all cells in our body.

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                                  • >implying God is real and not created by men to control men.

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                                    • Amen brother!!!! May the Lord bless you!

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                                      • Evolution is fake

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                                        • You can't prove Creation in a lab either. The difference is that evolution has a ton of evidence behind it.

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                                          • Incorrect. It's amazing how much effort you people will put into being wrong.

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                                              Yet evolution rarely explains sexual reproduction which is against survival of the fittest

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                                              • Edited by Batman: 5/12/2015 2:00:37 PM
                                                TL;DR

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                                                • You can't just go quoting a creation STORY. It literally had the word story in the name. Yet you still continue to believe that it actually legitimately happened. IT DIDNT HAPPEN.

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