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Edited by The Stranger:
4/30/2015 2:07:51 AM
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Anybody else pick up on the "rebalancing" pattern?
I've been here since beta but anybody who has been on the forums for more than a couple of months should see what's happening:
1. Scrubs complain incessantly about the gun(s) that kills them the most and how it's breaking crucible
2. People for and against a nerf to said gun(s) argue until those topics are all trending
3. Everyone who can equips said gun(s) because they assume it will make them better
4. Bungie sees everybody using the same gun(s) and arbitrarily decides it must be "overpowered"
5. Bungie releases hotbreak and sells us on their expert analysis involved in randomly picking nerf/buff values to fix broken crucible
6. Forums blow up as everybody laments how bungie broke crucible again (and PvE)
7. Scrubs still get killed a lot, but by different gun(s)
8. [Return to step 1]
I can't be the only one who's figured this out right? All you have to do to predict the next nerf anymore is to spend one round in Iron Banner!
Agree? Disagree? Is there any end in sight or can we expect to be relearning crucible every month or two consistently for the next 9 years? And will the PvE players ever catch a break?
[b]TL;DR: Crucible will never be balanced because scrubs will never be not scrubbish.[/b]
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116 RepliesEdited by BIGwillestylz: 4/30/2015 3:30:28 PMDo you actually think that a generation who received participation ribbons (throughout life) is going to look in the mirror and say "maybe I just suck"? #truth lol
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1 ReplyMy [url=https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/def6966a-4779-49aa-a48b-107d563721c5?gamerTag=ErgoImBetter&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469]Herp Derp Mythoclast[/url] needs a new scope and mayonnaise dispenser.
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3 Replieswhat does HCS have to do with anything
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1 ReplyEdited by ImHouzin: 4/30/2015 8:42:10 PMAgreed. I think handcannons and auto rifles will flip flop. Then when Suros makes its return, the bitching will be incessant. Its not about the guns. It's about the skill of the player using the gun. If everyone preferred scout rifles over any other primaries right now they would be saying the same things they're saying about handcannons. And it would trend. And they would get nerfed. It's just a vicious cycle of entitled people with a poor mindset.
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1 ReplyThere will always be balancing done throughout the life of this game. It is inevitable. They won't touch anything until the expansion drops as it will throw a lot of additional variables out there. But then it will begin again. Honestly though, heavy players aren't too worried about it. I switched from Suros to TLW a day after they announced the auto rifle nerf that I didn't agree with, and have a Red Death already leveled and ready when they inevitably nerf Hand Cannons. Nerf, don't nerf, doesn't really matter to someone who plays daily ya know?
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1 Reply100% fact.
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1 ReplyWhich is why I liked halo2 matchmaking. Your rank went up based on performance. Now games just reward you for participating. ToO can't come soon enough.
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1 ReplyThis is the greatest and most truthful post I have ever seen in my life... I just wish Bungie realizes this as well.
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1 ReplyFirst ib. Suros Last ib. Shotguns Ib now. Handcannons Next is scouts I guess Either way I'm gonna kill u. Your complaints just choose the weapon
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3 RepliesOk but honestly something is wrong when thorn and tlw have below half a second ttk
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1 ReplyEdited by ironcladtrash: 5/1/2015 1:35:59 AMI completely agree and I am getting sick of it. To me auto rifles are the biggest thing not balanced now. They need to be buffed.
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2 RepliesLove the post, clearly you have been here since day 1, and have survived: - The OG shotgun nerf - the great vex debate and subsequent nerf - the "we looked at stats and totally fixed PvP" end of year update - the take all your ammo and make hc's & pulse rifles the only used weapons - and the upcoming "we realized that people who play PvP mostly have been getting Buttplugged with no rewards or exp"
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This pattern is consistent with every -blam!-ing pvp game.
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Final step, ultimate frisbee crucible. Tower jumps enabled.
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1 ReplyThe time it takes to make a thorn post could be spent on strategizing against a thorn. Coming from a non thorn owner, bounty is active, just not really a priority for me. Bungie should disregard this forum anyway for true player input,, reddit would probably give you a more balanced view of the game, on here as a reader more than a poster, I see maybe 20% making sense and the other 80 just whining and bitching about how much they hate the game. Stop playing I mean damn lol. Spoiled gamers, give them an inch they want a mile
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3 RepliesI see this trend, but I see this trend in every online game that has PvP, even in some that don't have it.
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2 RepliesEdited by Pyro 509: 4/30/2015 8:48:27 PMTotally agree. And it sucks cause hand cannons are probably going to be nerfed into the ground and be buried right next to auto rifles. I don't even use hand cannons in crucible, but I love my hand cannons and don't want this to happen. I miss my hard light :( haven't used it since the Nerf cause it feels like a fully auto BB gun
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3 RepliesThat's what I keep saying, people are just too stupid to notice.
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5 RepliesLol, you must be the game's most inactive beta player.
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4 RepliesEdited by cq13: 4/30/2015 9:04:50 PMYour theory is flawed for the fact that you think bungie actually does anything based on our input verbally. All they do is see the data. If your an engineer and you see 90% of people are using auto rifles then most likely there is an advantage for using them. Same with shotguns. Its all about the numbers
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We actually played dodgeball in school in my youth. No pansy stuff either. We called headhunting right at the getgo. You learned how to obliterate people but also how to take a beating too. Its about picking yourself up by the balls and fighting back not staying on your ass and crying and pointing like a bitch.
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2 RepliesFull disclaimer: i don't play pvp much (or destiny anymore lolz) I think if bungie wanted a skill-based pvp they would have vanilla guns to coose ur loadout
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3 RepliesSimple fix: instead of commenting on the "this gun needs a nerf wah wah wah" posts, just read them, laugh to yourself (lvl of laughter should be determined by how ridiculous the post is), leave with out posting a comment or liking the post. Thread gets no comments/likes, does not become trending, bungie never sees it, everything stays as it is. Yes I realize things are still over powered/under powered but at least we are already used to it as they are now.
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1 ReplyIt is sad that the potential of video games is restricted by the amount of kills a bad player is getting every minute.
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4 RepliesEdited by GuTz HD: 4/30/2015 10:53:37 PMIf a single blade of grass grows above the rest, don't praise it, chop it down until it blends in with the rest. Do you think you're a "special snowflake"?! [spoiler]You should be ashamed for feeling good about taking 1st place in anything. You're no better than anyone else. We're all equal @ everything! We're ALL just as smart as Einstein!!![/spoiler] [spoiler]#satire[/spoiler]
