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Edited by Okidre: 4/27/2015 11:32:23 PM
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Light 34? New "Hardcore" Raid Difficulty! Now with 0% cheese

EDIT [b]reworded since many got offended[/b] [i]i would still like this mode made available[/i] [u]Maybe Bungie will read the replies and decide to implement some of the suggestions.[/u] Since we are getting a new level cap with the next DLC, bungie should up the difficulty to their current raids. [b]creating a 3rd [u]hardcore[/u] mode[/b] Here's a few suggestions: [u]Vault of Glass[/u] -Encounter doesn't start until all fireteam members drop into the conflux area. -Remove the ability to snipe from ledge up top by spawning everyone below -wiping at oracles restarts down where they spawn. - seal the legions room or spawn minotaurs in there for inactive players. (Think Nexus strike) -remove running ability at Gorgon's maze (weight of darkness?) no more eager beavers running ahead getting caught -Do not start gatekeeper encounter until everyone is inside, no more Sniping outside the door. -spawn Fanatics along with minotaurs [b]no more supplicants[/b] at Aetheon encounter. [u]Crota's End[/u] - weight of darkness doesn't drop past x1, disabling double jumps - plate at [b]abyss [/b]bridge doesn't activate until you have 3 or more players on it -Despawning adds is not longer possible with radiance or tower glitch -ogres do not appear unless you have [b]minimum[/b] of 4 players on the away side. -have shooting acolytes in the "thrallway" -Make both left & right side filled with boomer Knights and shooting acolytes (not just the left side) -a timer to kill all remaining spawns or must restart Ir Yut (call it an "encore") 3-4 minutes instead of searching for that [b]one[/b] that triggers the end. -every over soul spawns a set of witches or one ogre down below where the gatekeeper rests. [b]A real challenge for the [u]end game content.[/u] Having a higher light level shouldn't make it easier. (level 34 in 33 raid) [/b] [b]KEEP NORMAL AND HARD MODE THE WAY THEY ARE[/b] Let's have a light 34 [b]HARDCORE[/b] mode with all the above changes.

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  • The weapons from this would need an extra set of perks to even be worth doing.

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  • This thread smells of Fromunda cheese.

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  • Your whole post was disregarded upon reading the VoG section. VoG is the only place where snipers (like myself) are highly useful. Taking away the sniping ledge would suck so much fun out of VoG for sniping enthusiasts.

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  • This would be hard. Maybe a new weapon of two to earn in these modes

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  • Most of this stuff should have been in normal mode....

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  • Giving Gatekeeper a Boomer would contradict the fact that in the Hive's eyes, the highest authority is a blade made keen by eons of use. As for the rest of the things, the raids are fine the way they are. No need to add any of these.

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    • You call it making the raid harder, I call it making the raid not fun :/

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    • Oooorrrrrrr actually design a raid properly, hard but fair - uncheesable to begin with. Oh and bring out regular content so that dwelling on/fixing/old raids doesnt become the devs main focus.

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      • You say that ''Lots of people like cheesing'', but all your ''fixes'' for VoG are not cheeses, they are legit strategies that Bungie has acknowledged.

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      • Edited by samwenchester: 4/27/2015 11:47:28 PM
        These hard modes are synthetically made harder. It's lazy. Increase the enemy level and take away the ability to revive. These hard modes would be tons more fun if that weren't the case. Imagine. Instead of a 30 sec revive. Make it 1 minute. This would cut down the wipes almost completely. Crota raid is a joke with or without cheese. But anyway if you had a longer revive for hard mode it would be cause for real firefights, get your friend up and keep it moving. No more-"Oh that's a wipe" stupid. The actual play and complete a checkpoint time is much shorter than the Time you spend wiping. Yes you have some good points there, but they need to put some real thought into these raids. Vog was awsome. Could be better. But like I said, because of the no revive you could spend hours on the Oracles because two people die (wipe), start over. People would be much less inclined to cheese if this were the case. The game is meant to be an fps not jump of cliff because 2 people died game. You die then I spend 1 min 30 secs clearing the enemies out from around you then revive and keep it moving. It's still hard because what the boomers or hobgoblins can 2 or 3 shot you. Sorry for the rant but I've played many many game where the difficulty gets scaled up as you move along but your given means to cope adapt and keep playing. Not jump off ledge kill yourself amd start over.

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        • Lol, cheese isn't something they put in for user sake. It's a flaw in programming. A game this large will inevitably have exploits, and everytime you patch one, another appears. They aren't going to have a cheese free mode, they either patch it all, or they dont, most likely don't as chasing down every bug is a mother -blam!-er. That being said, I do love the idea of a level 34 mode, but I would take it a step further, let's have a level 35 mode.

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        • All they need to do is add a few invisible (or visible for all I care) barriers where people like to cheese from. Problem solved

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          • Nope

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          • So you want to remove the spirit bloom room in vog? Oracles won't start till everyone is at bottom? No problem I know how to get back up :3 Weight of darkness in Gorgon layer? So you want to not be able to run away if it gets too close great logic. Gatekeeper boomer? Fantastic now you have 5 bommers with the range of icebreaker how are suppose to kill the swordbearer if you are getting blasted in all directions? Seriously did you even think this over half the things you want to remove are actual raid material.

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            • Literally not good ideas at all.

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            • No thanks

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            • All you need to do is stop telling people how to play a game that didn't come with a how-to manual.

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            • Some of these are alright, some are idiotic. Knights that can hit you through the glass? That would be OP.

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              • Sounds good to me!

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              • This is the biggest piece of shit thread ive ever seen

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              • Wait, I thought that damage modifiers with differences in level cap out at 2-3 levels.

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              • In that case, bungie should stop players from being able to return to a mission where they left off half way through to kill a certain boss to complete their bounties. Make u play through it in full with every boring cut scene that we've all seen a million times now. Because, why the hell not! Let's think of other stupid things that bungie can do to make our lives less worth while. While we're at it, let's change it so only the top 10% of players can get the best gear in the game and alienate the 90% of players that actually make bungie the multi million dollars it actually makes. Now we're on to a winner!

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              • Congrats You found a way to make gm unplayable. Always having to form a fireteam is a hinderance to most adults bc LIFE.

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                • Raids don't matter to Bungie until Comet.

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                • Cheesing is for lame asses who suuuuuuuuuuck at Destiny

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                • Edited by I’m Dunn-4, Exo PDF File: 4/27/2015 9:58:59 PM
                  Meh. I could do it.

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