I do both raids 3x every week on normal and hard, but am not pissed off atm. I'm reserving judgement to see how the arena works. It looks like it's a 3 man PvE game mode. I will be very pissed off if it turns out it's a PvP game mode though. I'll probably give up on Destiny if it's PvP with no raid tbh, there just won't be enough to hold my interest.