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Edited by KitsuneSonow:
4/3/2015 1:09:54 AM
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All Exotic Primaries should have elemental damage.
Let's be honest here. For the most part no one uses exotic weapons primaries outside of pvp for anything that doesn't requires a quick shield take down or a burn for a certain element. I myself only use them in PVP and the Strike playlists.
Sadly, when you get into the later stages of Destiny, this winds up making a lot of exotic primaries useless. For example, whenever I got into a solar burn nightfall, I am not looking at my bad juju, Monte Carlo, or Hawkmoon, I go straight for either my abyss defiant or VoC.
Wouldn't these exotics be more sought after if they actually offered an element to go with them?
I know the argument against this is "But then Raid legendaries would become useless" and that isn't necessarily true. Some people prefer one type of a gun to another, and even then there are different builds within in each class of weaponry and people have different preferences there as well.
"But what about Raid Exotics?" They still have their niche and place as well, as it is the only primary fusion rifle you can get is the Vex Mythoclast which makes it more unique than others. Nechrochasm is the only Auto-rifle in the game that gets a firefly perk at all as well.
Neither the raid legendaries or exotics would lost their place among the other weapons just because everyone has a preference to what weapons they wish to use.
Edit: Great to see a lot of positive feed back on here. Seems everyone is in agreement (for the majority) that every exotic primary should have an element to them.
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Hard Light.....keep it kinetic
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4 RepliesEdited by Destiny89: 4/1/2015 2:13:50 PMYou know what this game needs to make it more exciting? Exotic Element Upgrades!! what that means is you play a raid on hard and get a chance to have a random exotic element upgrade shard drop for you ( its totally random could be an arc exotic shard, solar exotic shard or void ). Now lets say a Solar Element Exotic shard has dropped for you by defeating Athoen so you take that element and use it on the SUROS and Bam! now you have a SUROS with Solar element damage! note you cannot change the element of this weapon once the element exotic shard has been used! ( you could always upgrade another SUROS and have it equipped with an Arc element assuming an arc dropped for you ) and so on. Exactly WHATS BUNGIE DOING?
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1 ReplyExotics should deal more damage than legendaries. If a weapon has an element associated with its damage it should do less damage than an exotic with pure kinetic damage. How you obtain an exotic is a different matter that is much complicated tha Xurn v Earn debate!
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2 RepliesUntil I took the time and also had rng luck, I would have agreed with you. With that said, I think while some exotics could use some retooling, I think players should really have to think about what weapons are good for their playstyle and how well they fit into nightfalls, etc.
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2 RepliesI think No Land Beyond should be able to take down all shields in one shot.
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2 Repliesguns that should not have elemental damage: hawkmoon the last word no land beyond mida multitool universal remote
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Maybe for the really off the wall guns like hardlight. But I would much rather see my red death deal kneitic damage.
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6 RepliesIt ruin how hawkmoon and the last word feel.
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1 ReplyThis would be nice but that would be to OP
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3 RepliesI'm picturing something like solar red death or maybe an arc Hawkmoon lol legit would never use any other exotic lol.
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7 RepliesRed Death- Solar Bad Juju- Void MIDA- Solar Suros- Solar Hard Light- Arc Monte Carlo- Void Hawkmoon- Arc The Last Word- Solar Thorn- Void
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1 ReplyThe idea of exotics is that it's suppose to be extremely hard to choose what one you want to use. However when your doing anything in pve no one even thinks about a primary exotic. It makes them completely useless considering things like icebreaker and gally. They need elemental dmg
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How is this not trending?
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Edited by mrwazzabi: 4/1/2015 2:03:17 PMThe arguement that it forces you to raid is bullshit because if you want to use gjallarhorn or icebreaker, you will raid for an elemental primary. Exotic primaries having burn will allow us to finally vary our playstyle. I want to have unlimited ammo against juggler modifier using bad juju, but without a burn, it won't do enough damage to activate string of curses. I want to heal with red death, but again, lack of burn gimps me. I want to take down majors with my hawkmoon's 3 lucky bullets, but lack of burn makes fatebringer and word of crota triple its damage. I want to run as fast as a sparrow with my mida, but again, no burn means i do 1/3 the damage of my fang. Devs need to take notice and bring elements back to exotic primaries.
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Bump. Devs need to undo this nerf. In beta all exotics had elemental burn. They nerfed them to do kinetic damage on release. Stupid decision. Now nobody uses exotic primaries outside of pvp and the odd time that the exotic is useful (red dead in crota hm cp). I want to use Hawkmoon, Thorn, Monte Carlo, Mida, Hard Light in nightfall and take advantage of the burn modifier. Some of the very best exotics are primaries and it's a shame they handicap you when being used in high level pve.
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I think you should be able to apply consumables to them, similar to the Crux, that drop during a hard mode raid. So, you could end up with any type of burn damage, and it would make them more relevant without people being able to slide by the raids.
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I think adding kinetic burn to nightfalls and weeklys would remedy this problem. Then exotic primaries would be much more sought after and being inclined to use kinetic damage would encourage players to choose from a wider range of primary legendary weapons as well. Instead of "solar burn, better break out my VoC" or "Arc burn Omnigul again? Let me grab my Fang." I'd like to hear "Sweet, kinetic burn. I can choose between the other 80% of my primary inventory now." Plus if the element of your special and heavy weapons didn't matter due to kinetic burn, primary exotics would be even MORE sought after.
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2 RepliesFunny thing is that Bad Juju (and some other primary, maybe thorn) actually had void damage in the Destiny Beta/Alpha, but they removed the void damage for the full game for some reason. Elemental primary exotics other than the laser hose and peashooter would be nice.
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3 RepliesThere should be Kinetic burn for Nightfall
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I agree with this. They should have elements. To be honest most of these so called exotics can pass on as legendary weapons. Well the ones without an element.
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2 Repliessure. i would love to use exotic primaries for nightfall (not really sure which, because i have a ghorn and IB)
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1 ReplyI always thought about this. Why would I use an exotic prim with no burn? Red death at least heals but still. Rather have my fang out n a ice breaker.
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5 RepliesNo. That would defeat the purpose of raids.
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1 ReplyI get the point but bungie is trying to have people use more than just exotic primaries, why would you run around with an ice breaker if you can run around with mida and black hammer. People would only use 3-4 guns for everything that ranges from patrols to nightfalls to pvp. If they do add in elements to ALL primary exotics, might as well remove all the other exotics
