Agreed. But I think the bigger rant about scout rifles is the crazy accuracy of every other weapon in the game. Minus snipers, scouts should be the winner at range. But they're not. 1) There aren't enough wide open maps, and 2) the accuracy of other weapons places destiny PVP squarely in the camp of Call of Duty. I used to hate it when I would get sniped across the map by a P90 in Call of Duty. If someone wants 900 rounds a minute, great. But that gun should be crap at a distance. The same here goes for hawkmoon and thorn. I use 'em, and I like 'em. But the notion of a hand pistol performing with the same accuracy of a marksman rifle is ridiculous. But again, this isn't a frustration unique to Destiny, it's a frustration to all first person shooters with few exceptions (Ghost Recon, Killzone, and a few others I'm sure). I'm a mediocre PVP player. I can't go zipping around with a shotgun, blink jumping and throwing grenades while in the air. I'm just not that good. So I'd love to play at a distance. In the absence of that option, lately, success seems to be running around with a fusion rifle. I know they nerfed 'em, but everyone has a shotgun these days. And I've found that if I can position myself 20-30 yards away from opponents, simple guns like Murmur end up wrecking all those aggressive shotties. And man oh man, it feels good to watch some shotgun-welding charging rhino float away in a glowing white outline of death.