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Edited by Colt1775:
5/5/2015 7:03:03 PM
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You do realize for something to evolve it's DNA has to change completely right? DNA cannot change without being manipulated by humans, but it can gain endurance to certain things like temperature or pain.
Fish didn't form from atoms and fish didn't turn to monkeys and monkeys didn't turn to people. If atoms just collided and built up you'd get some pretty ugly crap that's not living.
For example: an ape will always be an ape, a fish will always be a fish, a human will always be a human.
Therefore evolution was just proven with a fact to be a theory.
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I am, you haven't provided a single thing for me to even make me think twice.
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I'm sorry then dude, I tried. I really gave it my all. Only thing left to do is find a church and try to get rooted in it. Words can only do so much, now It's time to see what I was talking about in action for yourself.
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I have found a church, I went to bible camp, I did everything but it was like seeing 2+2=5. I'm sorry but you just simply don't have reliable evidence to make me believe again. I was born, then I was told there was a god so I believed for most of my life. Then after actually reading the bible I realized it was wrong.
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There we go! Finally getting into your story. Tell me more about the decline or your faith.
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I see the beautiful stars that are millions of light years away so there goes your theory that the earth is 6000 years old.
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I never said the earth was 6,000 years old did I? The earth could be 700,000,000,000,000 years old and it couldn't matter to me because ultimately God created it regardless.
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Science suggests otherwise
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Science is based on what humans think they know
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Its based on what reality presents to us.
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And reality is based on what we surround ourselves with.
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Do you believe gods word is correct, because the genealogical timeline of gods words shows the world being that age. If not then you are picking and choosing what to believe.
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Nowhere in the bible does it say the world is 6,000 years old. There was that gap between the moment of creation and the recording of events. Or you may not be able to handle this one, what if science is wrong? What if the world is 8 thousand years old and our carbon dating is just theories and all data returned by method of carbon dating is wrong because it lined up with a theory and collection of numbers made up by narrowminded humans who thought they were smarter than they are. You can't handle that one can you? I can tell you why. Because it either isn't what you want to hear or it doesn't line up with what you've been told your whole life. That's always the two reasons why someone would disagree with what they are told.
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Edited by Jack: 3/19/2015 7:36:37 PMThat's why we do not only use carbon dating, we use radiometric dating which has hundreds of different methods that all produce the same thing. But if it is wrong science will accept it. You have to find the evidence [u]then make the claim[/u]. Not make the claim, [i]then find the evidence[/i]
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That's not how faith works and you know it.
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Yes, and I don't trust anything by faith if evidence suggests otherwise
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So tell me what caused you to lose faith?
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Having an open mind
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I'm confused.
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I asked questions and the answers to those questions we're logical and didn't include god. Nothing pointed to god. As I looked further and further their is no need for a creator at all, the answers and the truth were in science, then I read the bible and noticed all of the contradictions and fallacies.
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Edited by Colt1775: 3/19/2015 9:28:11 PMAnd that's why you ground yourself in the church first. The world will do absolutely everything it can to convince you God isn't needed or necessary which is a lie from straight from the mouth of satan. Satan plays on this world, what it knows and what it does then presents things in a way that will convince you of what you now believe. Ecclesiastes 1:17-18 NLT 17 So I set out to learn everything from wisdom to madness and folly. But I learned firsthand that pursuing all this is like chasing the wind. 18 The greater my wisdom, the greater my grief. To increase knowledge only increases sorrow.
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You are not realizing [u]I don't take the bible as a fact nor as reliable information.[/u] you can quote it as much as you want, I don't take it literally. Its is not proof. The devil has no proof neither does god. I was in a church for many years. Asking questions is not a bad thing. Evidence and facts are not the devils doing they are reality.
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No, what it says is "too much wisdom can lead you away from God." You'll look back on your collected knowledge and want more of it because when you know things you tend to be proud and pride isn't of God and then think none of that knowledge ever pointed to God because you see only what you've read and none of it ever mentioned God. Science can dull the mind of truth rather than teach.
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Its everywhere but not on the internet?
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[quote]What do you see when you look up at night?[/quote] Stars near definitely harbouring alien life. [quote]What do you hear when you walk in the woods?[/quote] Birdsong which I pick up with my ears due to sound waves traveling through the air. [quote]What do you taste when you eat?[/quote] FUD. This is nature you're describing, not God.
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Everything that exists has to have been created except for God who always was, always is, and always will be.
