iron banner is the real grind ive been saying this for ages. any scrub can get carried or do the carrying pve is easy. try dealing with hours on end of shotguns, lag, fusion rifles, vex mytho, lag, campers, lag, kick to orbit, lag, contact destiny servers .....lag before you start whinging get better internet all you gimps am i the only one in the world who has green bar connection pve is tooooo easy