so its useless when everybody is dead in a nightfall and you go invisable and revive everbody with it ? same goes for raids when everybody is killed during the templar cept me

Okay, I'm actually neutral in this whole thing (I have all three classes. Yes, my Main is a "Lock," but that is because the idea of the Nova Bomb is what I had in mind for a "Super."), but I have to say, the whole "Hunters go invis so they are super duper awesome amazing" argument is crap. The invisibility perk is only on one subclass and takes time to activate. In addition, it ends after a short time and has to be spec'ed just right to see its full use. Not to mention that as soon as you attack, the enemies know you are there and are looking for you. If you want to argue Hunter usefulness in PvE, there are better things to focus on, like the Golden Gun one shoting most enemies, or how that extra speed allows Hunters to get out of sticky situation. Sure, the Double Jump isn't the most awesome movement ability, but it allows you to cover gaps other Classes just can't quite make with the same ease. Also, Hunter's rock for parts of Crota's End, especially getting that chest after the Bridge section. There's more than I listed here, so use your imagination and fight on Guardian. [b]tl;dr[/b] Going invisible isn't the best thing about a Hunter, get off that trip.

You have to crouch and don't move for 4 seconds. That's a long time.