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Edited by Jack: 7/21/2015 8:13:19 AM
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For those who don't believe in evolution...

It really isn't a debate, evolution is a fact. Its not subject to belief or disbelief, its reality. A scientific theory is a proven hypothesis. Evolution is a theory, just like Gravity, and Cells are "just a theory". Micro and Macro evolution are fake concepts invented by creationists in order to debunk it. Clearly, that did not work. Evolution has been directly observed in animals with short lifespans like fruit flies. If you are going to reject direct, peer reviewed observation, yet trust in the bible, or the Qur'an or any holy book. You are creating a double standard. The burden of proof is on us, and it has been met time and time again. Edit: Wow 2000 replies that's awesome Edit: I really love the responses, I can't believe we're over 3000 Edit: I'm gonna rewrite this post as I don't like the message it is portraying and some of the feedback it has received. I just don't personally like how it was wriited and the circumstances it was written in check back in a couple hours for the new one.

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  • Edited by Im 7he Clown: 5/17/2015 1:16:57 AM
    Isn't there a law that says chaos can only create chaos? Basically if the "Big Bang" is real than I can throw a hand grenade in my back yard and it will build me a house. XD And why are we even discussing this? Everyone is allowed to have there own opinion. Right or wrong.

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    • Edited by big jim brown: 6/18/2015 10:21:49 PM
      Nothing can be proven with science, The earth was once proved to be flat. But guess what? It's not. Nothing can be proven with science because the slightest piece of evidence could come in any day and breakdown years of what has become known as scientific fact. And ask for atheism, I believe in God I believe in Jesus and I believe in the Bible. Look around you. Do you think all the amazing species of animal came from one life form that lived millions of years ago? show me one intermediate fossil. I dare you. Explain to me fossil graveyards! And show me one thing that science has proven 100%.

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      • Edited by Unit 1262: 7/18/2015 4:43:44 AM
        Creationists scare me. I can't believe people actually buy into that.

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        • This is a theory of life put into a 'story' by Andy Weir... Egg Theory You were on your way home when you died. It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me. And that’s when you met me. “What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?” “You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words. “There was a… a truck and it was skidding…” “Yup,” I said. “I… I died?” “Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said. You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?” “More or less,” I said. “Are you god?” You asked. “Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.” “My kids… my wife,” you said. “What about them?” “Will they be all right?” “That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.” You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty. “Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.” “Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?” “Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.” “Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,” “All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.” You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?” “Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.” “So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.” “Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.” I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had. “You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.” “How many times have I been reincarnated, then?” “Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.” “Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?” “Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.” “Where you come from?” You said. “Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.” “Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.” “Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.” “So what’s the point of it all?” “Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?” “Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted. I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.” “You mean mankind? You want us to mature?” “No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.” “Just me? What about everyone else?” “There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.” You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…” “All you. Different incarnations of you.” “Wait. I’m everyone!?” “Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back. “I’m every human being who ever lived?” “Or who will ever live, yes.” “I’m Abraham Lincoln?” “And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added. “I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled. “And you’re the millions he killed.” “I’m Jesus?” “And you’re everyone who followed him.” You fell silent. “Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.” You thought for a long time. “Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?” “Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.” “Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?” “No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.” “So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…” “An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.” And I sent you on your way.

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          • Sayeth what?! You mean life is a lie and my belief in batgod is meaningless?!?!?!

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            • Talos the mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassailable! To you we give praise! We are but maggots, writhing in the filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from the dung of mortality, and now walk among the stars! But you were once man! Aye! And as man, you said, "Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you." Aye, love. Love! Even as man, great Talos cherished us. For he saw in us, in each of us, the future of Skyrim! The future of Tamriel! And there it is, friends! The ugly truth! We are the children of man! Talos is the true god of man! Ascended from flesh, to rule the realm of spirit! The very idea is inconceivable to our Elven overlords! Sharing the heavens with us? With man? Ha! They can barely tolerate our presence on earth! Today, they take away your faith. But what of tomorrow? Do the elves take your homes? Your businesses? Your children? Your very lives? And what does the Empire do? Nothing! Nay, worse than nothing! The Imperial machine enforces the will of the Thalmor! Against its own people! So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine! For we are the children of man! And we shall inherit both the heavens and the earth! And we, not the Elves or their toadies, will rule Skyrim! Forever! Terrible and powerful Talos! We, your unworthy servants, give praise! For only through your grace and benevolence may we truly reach enlightenment! And deserve our praise you do, for we are one! Ere you ascended and the Eight became Nine, you walked among us, great Talos, not as god, but as man! Trust in me, Whiterun! Trust in the words of Heimskr! For I am the chosen of Talos! I alone have been anointed by the Ninth to spread his holy word!

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            • TL;DR: Evolution is true because it is a fact. Logic.jpg

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            • We are all holograms projected by our atoms

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            • Yeah, I always have and always will know; not believe, that evolution is true.

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            • You put a lot of faith into an idea that was renounced by it's creator on his death bed when he converted to Christianity.

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              • Edited by freeRadical16: 5/5/2015 2:18:28 AM
                The theory of evolution has more holes in it than my underwear.

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                • And yet evolutions lack of verified fossil record is disturbing as well as the facts let's say we evolved from chromosomes. So how did the trees know to produce fruit that's nourishing for us. How did the waters know to be non toxic for us. All these lucky coincidences right? So explain to me again.why all these wonderful creations realize what's toxic for us realize to change colors to indicate when it's time to pick the fruit to aid us.realize that we need a special diet I mean c"mon I can highlight any fruit or vegetable and show you how it was created for our nourishment and enjoyment and how there is clearly a intelligent design behind it. Case closed

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                  • Your proof yourselves wrong. Science is the study of our surroundings. How do you study something that supposedly happened millions of years ago? That's right!!! You can't.

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                    • If you and your grandfathers want to be apes then go for it, but I know for a fact mine weren't [spoiler]people who actually think they evolved from apes/monkeys make me laugh[/spoiler]

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                      • Inb4 SGC

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                      • If most atheists say "if i cant see it i dont believe it". How can you possibly believe in the big bang and AN UNPROVEN THEORY about macro evolution

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                        • But it's not a law, meaning it's subject to change and can be disproven, btw

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                          • Religion is regarded by the common people as true,by the wise as false,& by the rulers as useful. Lucius Annaeus Seneca After stumbling across this post & reading back to May,I can only come to the conclusion that there's a lot of common people posting. Great points by lost logic & Britton.you have a lot of patience when coming up against people like aurion77 & a common engram. I recall watching Richard Dawkins with American Wendy Wright(infuriating),& she kept saying show me the evidence.there are museums full of evidence,lots of links,DNA etc etc.

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                            • Edited by ElectroHail: 7/18/2015 12:36:46 AM
                              What if you're inbred? checkm9

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                            • Let me just say this, God isn't real. Evolution is. Done.

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                            • FOSSILS! FOSSILS! FOSSILS YOU IDIOTS!

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                              • You were angry when you made this weren't you?

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                                • How do we explain the big bang, a space void of any material maybe not even a space of anything blowing up miraculously and over billions of years generating life out of thin air. I mean spontaneous generation was disproved so what other options are there. This sounds like something out of a sifi movie

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                                  • It doesn't matter if someone denys evolution. It's a fact and whoever denies it is a complete retard, no need to argue.

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