As much as I agree with your statements about the nerfs, that guy in the first video lost credibility with me when he blame PVP players and calling them "whiny" and going off about that.
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Fair enough, though the nerf was a result of PVP players requesting, do you ever here PVE players complain? No. Yet we get the PvP Nerfs as well. Not fair.
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[quote]Fair enough, though the nerf was a result of PVP players requesting, do you ever here PVE players complain? No. Yet we get the PvP Nerfs as well. Not fair.[/quote]this.
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No one was complaining about ARs. The only one people complained about was Suros when if first was sold. It was OP. ARs as a whole were fine. Suros was fixed and everyone was happy. The latest weapon patch was a result of Bungie wanting every one to use Pulse rifles more so they nerfed every thing else. The only guns ppl complain about now are Thorn and TLW which aren't even PVE weapons
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Did you see the comments complaining about Suros after the last IB (one in Jan. and Feb.)? I sure did, and I would have been with a PVP nerf, not a PVE nerf. This combined with AR's being the most used gave Bungie the idea of nerfing them, an idea which was and is absurd.
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That's just people crying for no reason. I promise if people were getting their shit pushed in by a Khostov they would've been complaining. At the same time, blame Bungie for that one too. You know why? They made a bounty for getting AR headshots, and seeing as how Suros is the only non doo doo AR, every one was using it just for the bounty, including me. If you play a regular crucible game, Suros is barely even present.
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For sure the majority of the blame is Bungie 99.9%, but keep in mind Bungie does keep a very close watch on their PVP community, much closer than the PVE community.
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And they also have the capability of nerfing in PVP and not in pve. Evidence by 100% damage increase of shotguns in pve and not in the crucible.