85% think that Auto's need a buff, bungie hasn't acknowledged thousands of people. I'm doing what I can to keep up this thread.
THIS IS MORE PVE GEARED THAN ANYTHING ELSE BUFF NON GUARDIAN DAMAGE
[i][b]85% think Bungie messed up[/b][/i]
A Great Video Explaining the Negative Effects brought on by 1.1.1:
http://youtu.be/GMQ_f4NoNVc
Auto's will always be the most popular, people are familiar with them. That's how it goes.
It's not fair you ruin these weapons and make them unenjoyable just because they are popular.
Scouts will become next most popular then you'll nerf those. It's not right.
[b][u]Edit:[/u][/b] I believe pretty strongly in this, I love my Suros, Hardlight and Monte Carlo, sadly they don't live up to there names. Please bump if you agree, I want to have a shot at change (=
A thread in feedback as well
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105281905/0/0/1
Proving Bungie's Lie about 2.5%
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/104621102/0/0
Another Large Group of People Wanting this Changed
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/104799664/0/0
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/99656519/0/0
[b]Edit:[/b]
Option 1: [b]10,008[/b]
Option 2: [u]1602[/u]
Option 3: [i]2081[/i]
Over 10,000 votes requesting a buff. Lets go Bungie!
[b][i]Major Edit:[/i][/b] Appears some are too lazy to actually look at the thread showing the amount of nerf each weapon received, so I will post here, know that these are not my results but another supporter in the community.
Actual % of Nerf
Suros Regime: 14% (Impact Rating: 28)
HardLight: 6-9% dependent on first tree attachments (Impact Rating: 9)
Abyss Defiant: 6.3% (Impact Rating 8)
Monte Carlo: 6.3% (Impact Rating 8)
This is far off the "2.5%" released by Bungievision.
[b]Edit:[/b] Greatly appreciating all the support, this is the only way to get Bungie's attention and get our Auto's back! I'd like to invite any Bungie admin/mod/ninja/Deej to pass this on to devs. Need you guys.
Edited title to sound more professional.
[b]Please write bump, amount of replies has a direct correlation to Bungie paying attention[/b].
[b][i][u]4 out of 5 people agree Auto's need a buff[/u][/i][/b]
[b][i][u]10,000/11,500 people believe that Auto's need a buff, where is Bungie?[/u][/i][/b]
[b][i][u]85% of voters believe that Auto's need a buff, I'm suggesting a rehash of "WakeUpSony which took fire on Twitter, with "WakeUpBungie".[/u][/i][/b]
First WakeUpBungie thread located in Feedback:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105493526/0/0
Another WakeUpBungie thread:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105508546/0/0
For people wanting to link the thread:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105279649/0/0
Over 10,000 believe auto's need a buff, we aren't going anywhere Bungie, can't just hope it goes away!
[b][u]One in Eight Believe that the 1.1.1 patch placed Auto Rifles in the right spot! 13% WakeUpBungie![/u][/b]
[b][i][u]Special thanks to BrandenBjonzn for bumping this post constantly and keeping it alive.[/u][/i][/b]
[b][i][u]We've officially hit the 10k vote mark, and Bungie is yet to say a thing. Perhaps 20k will do it.[/u][/i][/b]
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The Auto's should not have received a nerf at all. They should have been left untouched in this weapon update. The other buffs and nerfs of the other weapons were needed, the AR nerf was not.
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Yeah it's a little ridiculous. I have a 331 Up for Anything auto. Bought a vanguard Coiled Hiss pulse just to screw around with. It's only at 283 right now. The Coiled Hiss is doing 20-30 more damage per shot with a lower impact and lower damage number than my auto. Kinda stupid.
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2.5% was the absolute minimum. Saying it was an average of 2.5% was clearly a lie. Suros and most other autos are just bad now.
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auto's are now competitive with other weapon classes in primary slot, If you feel like your auto is unusable now you probably just don't have a natural affinity towards that type of weapon try other types. Many people misunderstand liking something for its power verse liking something for its simple awesomeness i mean i like uni remote prior to patch shotties were terribad in pve because it took 10 shots to kill an ultra, but you see shotties tend to be slower and carry low ammo this is because if you have to shoot something point blank in the face 10 times with a shotty you probably should not have shot it because it is most likely immortal.
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You need the option to click "idc I'm only on the forums cause I'm pooping"
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People use AR because little to no aiming is needed, and 0 timing is needed It's the simplest weapon to use without being overly aggressive Not gonna lie, I use AR occasionally too
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Edited by Karl Hungus: 3/1/2015 9:47:18 PMTo be honest, I hate pvp, but auto rifles should just go back to how they were. I'm trying to level one up, and its tough not to just put it away and go back to my scout rifles.
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I use mida or tlw. Still doing ok.
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Pulse rifles needed a buff but nerfing auto rifles was stupid.
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I definitely agree. Suros was the main gun I've been going after, since I enjoy the way it sounds and shoots, but all the "nerfs" it had to go through I'm not entirely sure I wanna keep playing to get it.
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People are still spamming the hell out of them in crucible, and effectively too, so it can't be all that bad.
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My Suros collects dust while I use lesser guns. We need another 'balance'.
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I think they said 2.5% average across all autos.
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Tbh that nerf made me stop playing the game. Suros is that one exotic I don't have that's good. Now I don't want it or care.
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I'd be okay if it was actually 2.5% on high impacts only
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They seem underpowered to me in PvE. PvP is whatever, that I've accepted will always be in a state of flux balance wise, so I'm getting good with everything.
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I suggest a PVE ONLY buff. No PVP buff.
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Edited by CrazyCanadianSAS: 3/1/2015 8:35:46 PM[b][u]New Goal 7 and 1/2 hours to complete, get option #1 to 70%! Show Bungie we want change! Click for that buff. Vote Vote Vote![/u][/b] [i]Every Vote Counts. [/i]
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Abyss defiant is now abysmal hahaha
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My problem with this is it seems many people used autos because of their effectiveness, not because they enjoy using autos. That was a problem. I never liked auto rifles and despite pulse rifles being inferior they just fit my method of play. I was doomed from the get go in any battle but I didn't care because I prefer accuracy and bursting. This nerf was to level the weapons out. Ever wonder why so many people used Suros? It wasn't because they liked the gun. It was because it was OP. Apparently, due to the total buff, it was extremely OP. It only goes to show that the nerf was necessary and appropriate.
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Here's my video at the request of the author about how this continual nerfing is ruining the weapons and the game