[quote]At some point, people's -blam!-ed up, selfish ideas about what constitutes "fun" can't all be accommodated. As an extreme example, if someone said "hey bungie it's only fun for me if I play with white people, could you use the kinect to detect if the player is white and if not make sure I don't get on their team in crucible?" obvously Bungie would say "um, no, sorry that's not fun for you, but we're going to do something that LOTS of people want". So infuriating that people can't see past their own myopic point of view.[/quote] I'm glad you said something like that so I can rebuttal with this. Selfish ideas of fun also constitute people who believe they should be entitled to ride others to glory while not even having to lift up a single finger. Also it includes people who play crucible who are complete and utter trash that feel they have the right to do what they want since they payed for the game. Your extreme example is just that extreme. Your talking about racism which cannot be related to anything else. I see the point of view of others. Doesn't mean there view is right or justified. You are a contradiction yourself as you can't see the pov of people who think they shouldn't have to carry others. All you are is someone on the other side of the argument. The only thing is the people on your side have no argument as to why I should have to carry someone through anything. If you can't start throwing out reasons as to why it's my duty to carry others then we can get into a real debate