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Edited by Mortug: 2/19/2015 4:53:35 PM
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Behold the reason Gjallarhorn, Thunderlord and many other weapons wont drop for YOU

Most of us are blinded by the holiness of RNGsus. But I'm a sceptic and a non-believer, so I have a theory of why YOU wont get a certain weapon, but others will. Now, we all think that it's all based on RNG, but I don't really think so. I do understand the concept of randomness, but I don't believe that's a fact in this concern. I am gonna use two examples: Player 1: - has Thunderlord and Gjallarhorn - want Ice Breaker and SUROS Player 2: - has SUROS and Ice Breaker - want Thunderlord and Gjallarhorn Player 1 and 2 keeps on grinding for their wanted weapons, but usually get random crap drops. And to top that, they get multiple drops of the exotics they already have. (like me, i've gotten 3 No Land Beyond from Crota) And this is where my theory comes in... Bungie has a system (fixed RNG), that basicly makes it (nearly) impossible for you to get the weapons you are missing. It's like your profile is assigned to certain weapons. Me, I get SUROS all the time. So a simple example for this system would be: "Drops assigned to Player 1: Thunderlord, Gjallarhorn etc" (these are the drops always handed out) "Drops avoided for Player 1: Ice Breaker, SUROS, etc" ( these are the drops that might never happen) (same with Player 2,3,4,5,6,7, infinity) I know there are many RNGsus followers out there, and by all means, praise him! But me, I'm not fooled by this non-sense anymore. Just like anything else, Bungie likes to control the community, so they control RNG as well. Yeah, I know, Bungie started selling Ice Breaker, which was hard to get for many of us. But that was also their decision. Why do you think it became available shortly after CE? To soothe the masses to keep them playing. Conclusion: Players will always get the same drops, and will most likely never get that one thing they are missing (in my case Gjallarhorn). Hope i made sense. I've been thinking about this for a long time, but never been able to put a word to it. Maybe i wasn't able now either... I might be wrong, but I'm sure my points makes it clear enough. [b]*edit 1*[/b] I see many say they have all Exotics, and asks me to explain that. Well, that's cause Bungie decided that your profile, amongst others, could. That's why. [b]*edit 2*[/b] *sigh* This wasn't actually meant to be a post about weapons never dropping, cause they can. It's just that it is controlled by Bungie. Sure, some of you have played for 500 hours and finally gotten a certain weapon. But because the community is continously growing, Bungie decides to hand out X amount of, ie, GHs a day, but still manage to control the weapon flow. [b]*edit 3*[/b] People seem to be believe I'm saying stuff never drops. If it says that somewhere in my post (I've tried to reword myself), that's not what I'm saying. Please, read my post over again, especially "edit 2". [b]*edit 4*[/b] Well, I expected a lot of flaming since my so called theory is far fatched, flawed and simply crappy :P I've tried my best to answer most posts I've seen fit. Thankfully most have been serious posts. Some not. I am now going to get a beer and my whisky bottle, sit down, and play some Strikes. Will check in later to see if this is still alive. Hopefully I will prove myself wrong and get GH tonight... hrhrhhr

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  • I will believe in predestined account luck when someone gets a Key of Twilight. Until then, random is random.

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  • I havent done much raiding yet, so maybe i hold no credibility, but I've wanted suros since the game came out...of all places i got it in a crucible match that i played like a monkey doing long division...i believe in RNGsus. Lol

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  • It's all luck if you're getting * rewards then you are just getting extremely unlucky. I got the thunder Lord finally last night for doing the deathsinger part on normal then I beat crota and got no land beyond for the 5th time haha.

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  • I have all 4.

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  • What you're describing is called confirmation bias, nothing more. If you are rolling dice and want to roll a specific roll, you're going to think that there must be something wrong with the dice because you keep rolling everything but what you WANT to roll. Go play cards with the intention of getting dealt a certain hand... See how far that gets you.

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    • This is all nonsense. Bungie doesn't care if you have Thunderlord.

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      • That's why I have all the exotic weapons available?

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        • I want hard light so bad I already have galla 6 times now fuk i Don't want it dropped to me anymore it suck that's all I get all the time not even jokin

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        • Wrong, the only exotic I was missing yesterday dropped from Crota on Normal on my first run.

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        • I agree completely.

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        • Incorrect. I tried for 21 weeks to get Hard Light. Got it recently.

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          I agree I've had 7 icebreakers and plan C drop I constantly get those it's not even funny anymore but I can't get thunderlord read death or Monte Carlo for my life... I max out Roc strikes on all 3 characters every week play crucible, nightfall and weeklys.. Always the same results

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        • I think you give the rng system too much credit, the rng might have different weighted curves for everyone or maybe that's how the dice drop

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        • #RNGgate

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        • The RNG is rigged, like a Vegas a lot machine. How exactly? It's quite simple...and ingenious. When you begin Destiny, you character has an equal chance to find any exotic weapon. Once you get lucky enough to find one (any exotic-it doesn't matter which), your chances to find that exact same exotic increase. This has the direct effect of making it harder and harder to find exotics you don't already have, therefore the longer you play, the less chance you have to find the exotic you're missing because the chances are so low becuase by then, you've found 12 SUROS, 15 Truth, 10 Ice Breaker, and so many Vex's they just go straight to postmaster. This is why your friend who has Gjallarhorn will find it so many times, sharding it right in front of you, while you in turn, shard that beautiful SUROS he wants so bad and can't find. Destiny's RNG makes sense if player trading or gambling was included, but they cut those features because 10 year olds.

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          • Good theory, but unfortunately it can't be backed up. So, for now, it's just a conspiracy.

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          • I have had a similar thought at certain points in this game.

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          • I have every exotic available to xbox . With the exception of necro chasm . The only reason I don't have that though is because I don't have a husk of the pit yet:( I have three crux of crotas though lol

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          • Good theory, but unfortunately it can't be backed up. So, for now, it's just a conspiracy.

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          • That might possibly be the stupidest thing they could have ever done. Which would totally make sense.

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            • Good theory, but unfortunately it can't be backed up. So, for now, it's just a conspiracy.

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            • A friend of mine belived exactly what you are explaining. Literally watched as everyone got ghorn from our regular raid fire team. (I was last to get it and his brother has had 4). He thought he would never get it, I personally felt the same about the vex having done tonnes of atheon hard cp's and seeing them drop for everyone but me. He got the horn from a crucible reward while taking part in his first iron banner earlier tonight. I got the vex last weekend from my third atheon run. I now belive something slightly diffrent. That exotics have tiers and the teirs are weighted. So higher teir weapons: ghorn, vex, thunderlord, IB, etc drop less frequently in the first place (weighting changes after first drop to fall in line with mid teir) Mid teir: suros, hard light, P&T, plan c, etc drop more frequently than high teir wepons (weighting changes after first drop to fall in line with lower teir) Lower teir: no land beyond (most common exotic drop weighted heavily over higher teirs) Everytime you get an exotic roll that re rolls for the teir of weapon you will recive. So say you get lucky and drop a ghorn then next roll the ghorn becomes easier to find even though it still needs a higher teir roll to find making the last weapons from each teir extremly hard to find (unless brought from xur) This isnt fact its just a guess at how the system works.

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              • The Destiny community is now dumber for reading this post.....

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              • You......are.......an......idiot.....

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              • I can't even remember the last time I got an exotic weapon drop -.-. Or a legendary engram.

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              • Correlation does not imply causation /thread

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