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Edited by Hooligantuan:
3/1/2015 8:05:19 PM
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I Just Noticed, in Ishtar Academy... [Hey, Look - No Hands! Thread]
So, the mission, "The Archive" - when you have to go into the Ishtar academy to secure data and Grayliks infiltrates, leading to a fight.
You pass some skeletons when you initially enter the doors - the ones locked with the Radial A encryption, remember?
Well, years of Fallout have taught me to pay attention to the objects, particularly skeletons, that are placed in a scene, because they often tell a story. The particular story here I wasn't sure about - there are some skeletons strewn about, one looks like the decedent was sitting at the time, another couple are entwined on the floor, another lies clean, facing upward to the ceiling.
I figured they might be research crew or engineers or some such, locked in there when The Golden Age collapsed suddenly around them.
But then I noticed [i]none of them have hands or feet[/i].
That would paint a far more grisly picture, but I'm having trouble putting together a plausible narrative. If the archive were infiltrated, why not just kill them? Clearly they had time to themselves after being maimed, left to bleed out. It's unlikely they did this to themselves, since one would expect a tool nearby and at least one hand among them.
Or, ya know, someone was a little sloppy with the geometry assets and just forgot to toss some hands and feet in there. But I like to think this was intentional.
Any ideas?
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Edited by Artorias: 2/17/2015 5:48:40 PMHmmmm...I doubt they were tortured. The Fallen were trying to break in remember? That would mean that those doors hadn't been opened for decades. Those guys were probably a research crew that opted to stay behind and finish off some data destruction or something. Why do they have no hands or feet? Well...a 3D model that was gimped to reduce polygon count more than likely. Either that or they all went crazy and one of them cut off the hands and feet of his fellow researchers and left them to die, then did it to himself. Now that I think about it, how the f*ck did Grayliks get in there and come out the door that he does? There was only one entrance...maybe they did the cralling around vents shit from the first level that was supposed to happen throughout the whole game...
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6 RepliesCaaaaarrllllll!!!
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I had rumblies in my tummy that only hands could satisfy
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Theres one sat in a chair in the Last Array story..... if thats the correct mission title lol. I did wonder how he couldve died sat so ..... erm ..... comfortably in a chair.
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Edited by Ungrateful-Dead: 2/17/2015 7:09:34 PMEver notice how many cartoon characters only have three fingers? Ever wonder why? [b]Because nobody likes drawing hands, that's why - skeleton hands are even worse than regular hands.[/b]
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Maybe they were some type of machine similar to robocop where only the head & chest were needed, and the rest was taken some time after.
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2 RepliesMaybe they were locked in and left to starve so they ate their hands...
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1 ReplyThe IS caught them stealing food and running away so they chopped off their hands and feet according to their bs sharia law.
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I love that somebody else noticed that. I always thought they were left in there by themselves.. the research center is so clean and prestine, it looks as if nobody really had been in there since they died.
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maybe thats how the fallen have their extra limbs. that sure would be gruesome to actually find out. Unfortunately grimoire says theyre all born with four arms
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1 ReplyMaybe they were tortures to find out what they knew about the vault of glass.
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Hands and feet removed to keep aliens from using their corpses to open the door?
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If you look at the other skeletons in the game none have hands and feet
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They might of eaten them and the bones just decayed. The bones in hands and feet are very small so they would decay fast
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It wasn't in their 500M budget
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A revenge atrocity, committed in response to the super pox incident. If you have the gun, you'll know.
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Lazy development. Every skeleton is like this. During the Array mission, there are skeletons with the exact same models, even one sitting in a chair. They just placed the models wherever they wanted.
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Edited by GemCutter: 2/17/2015 3:31:10 PMHands and feet are time consuming to render compared to a femur I would assume. The fact that I've also looked at those skeletons at least a few times and never noticed, in a way justifies the shortcuts. However I like your theory.... Obviously the information contained within the archive is important, we know there is stuff in there about the black garden, probably much more, seemingly untapped until ghost gets in.... So I imagine the Fallen (who obviously still have access through back and side doors that guardians do not, tortured the scientists trying to get them to open the archive, which they were either unable or unwilling to do. Given that [i]all[/i] Fallen dregs themselves practice voluntary [b]self-amputations[/b] on their lower set of arms as a sign of loyalty and subservience to their leaders, I'm sure they are more than comfortable performing the grisly act on humans who may hold valuable information. I'm actually starting to think the ridiculously ambiguous storyline isn't such a bad thing because it leaves room for speculation such as this which can be very entertaining.
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hands and feet are all small bones and are less rigidly connected together than the larger ones. They are often are lost when skeletons decompose, small animals carry the smaller parts off first, idk... I'd guess that it was simply an oversight / laziness on bungie's part. OR, perhaps they were hobbled and had their hands and feet cut off and locked in the vault to prevent the secrets from escaping. Maybe they were trying to get out and they got their hands cut off by the blast doors when they slammed shut. Maybe this was the set of SAW VLXI and they were handcuffed to the wall with an exotic hack saw and had to amputate their hands and feet to try and get out?
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Non of the skeletons in fallen territory have hands or feet. Look the priest strike on Venus and the hung up humans.
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Have you ever tried drawing hands and feet? Probably the same with making a game.
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1 Reply*patch Info* Removed skeletons from all locations. This was not the way destiny is meant to be played.
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They are the research crew from the Vex Ghost Fragment Grimoire cards. The Fallen probably took their hands and feet after they died to study them.
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there are grimoire cards about these researchers actually , with the vex portal and everything .
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There are skeletons like this everywhere actually. Every one ive seen, or parts of which ive seen, have no hands or feet. Well I think maybe hands, but ive never seen feet. Maybe the house of wolves raid boss took them, and we have to save all the feet in the raid to win.
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16 RepliesThe skeletons are just aesthetic. What one needs to pay attention to, in The Archive mission, is, "Hello, Dr. Shin." What, did a computer mistaken your appearance to be that of a doctor? Obviously not. Dinklebot hacked the door, so you aren't being addressed according to a stolen access code attached to a particular individual and you never identify yourself - ever. Is Dinklebot really that convincing when he tells you to "ignore that"?
