And it was the most un-organized, loudest, most immature experience I've ever had on this game. Everyone wanted to run the sword, so they literally raced to see who could kill the sword bearer first, the chalice was being thrown around so quickly that no one actually benefited from it, the raid leader kept trying to "glitch" crota and no one had any exotic weapons. There was a point I literally just sat in the starter room and watched everything go wrong....not to mention we never got crota to a knee....not a single time.....and this is why I never play with randoms.