God created sex and it's holy? God also created sin, murder, r ape, etc. etc. I guess those things must also be holy as well right?

You are wrong sir

How am I wrong? You're claiming sex is holy because god created it. God also created r ape, murder, and child deaths. By your logic each of those should be considered holy because god created them.

You are wrong in that you say God created -blam!-, murder, or child deaths. God did not create anything evil. Sex is a good thing. It is not always used for the purpose God intended. But sex in itself its sacred.

If god did not create evil then god is not all powerful. To say god didn't create evil, but you believe he created everything is contradicting your beliefs. But I'll prove you wrong anyways. I'm sure you'll agree that god is all powerful and all knowing. To be all knowing means you literally know everything. That includes past events, present events, and future events. We will focus on the future events. I'm sure you also know that god created all the angels, including lucifer. God is all knowing so when he created lucifer he did so knowing lucifer would rebel and cause Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. This effectively caused all man to be born with original sin. Also with god being all knowing, he knew that lucifer would rebel and later tempt all men so they would sin and go to hell. Now let's take it a bit further with the all knowing thing. Once again all knowing means you can see future events. That also means to us god knows what we will do 5 minutes from now, and 5 years from now. He knows all of our future events to the point of our death. That means that when god creates a person, he knows how that persons life will play out. That also means that god specifically creates people so they go to hell. Essentially we have no free will. How can we have free will if god already knows what we will do in the future? It only appears that we have free will because we can't see our own future.

God knows our future which means He is in control. God has never created a person who was destined to hell. Every person who had gone to hell had either never heard of Gods salvation or rejected it. God gave us a free will to choose. He doesn't make us follow Him and love Him. Its all in your choice. God created angels with the choice to follow Him or not. Now whether or not He knew that Satan would turn against I can not say for certain. But I'm sure since He knew they had a free will that it was a possibility. But I for one am grateful that He gave us a free will to choose. Otherwise we would be like robots. But this way I have chosen to love and follow God and you, I am assuming, have chosen not to. And He knows your future. But nobody is destined to hell from birth. There is always a choice. You get to pick.

You've said it a few times yourself. God knows our future. If he knows our future, he knows if we will show him love or not. Therefore he knows who will go to hell and who won't from the point of creation. And yes we were meant to go to hell from birth. The original sin proved that. The point of your religion is to prove ourselves to god. If we don't prove our devotion to god we still keep the original sin and we go to hell. The only facts with religion is that it was made by men, including the bible. I can say that god inspired me to write what I'm writing now but no one will believe me because people aren't as gullible in today's world as they were 2,000 years ago.

All I'm saying is that no person is destined for hell.

Original sin disagrees with you.

Well I guess in a way you are right. We would all be destined to hell if it weren't for Gods grace. So I think I understand what you are saying. Because of sin we are destined to hell. But I believe everyone's true destiny is to be with God in heaven.

I give my respect to you. Most Christians turn up the hate when I present this argument to them. Good job, and I'm sorry if I ever came off as being rude. Have a good day.

yeah i'm real holy and sacred with your mom