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originally posted in:Thorny Guardians
10/24/2014 4:24:55 PM
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I can agree with some of your points, disagree with some of them, and a few of them are either common sense or I don't care about them enough to agree or disagree. I do agree that you should be a fairly high level. 26, I think, is a good starting level. I was 26 first time I did the raid. It was still incredibly challenging. But it was still super fun. The main thing I disagree with, though, is if they don't have enough time. Of course it's not a strike. If you're too self centered to think that if someone leaves and your progress on the VoG is going to be severely hampered, then it deserves to be. You have one whole week from the progress reset. For people who haven't done it just yet, they might need a few days. They haven't done it enough to go through it in one run. You need to be patient with them and just exit to orbit if they have to leave and continue as a full fireteam tomorrow with them instead of inviting a level 30 right as they leave. That's pathetic and disrespectful. Even if you only take 30-45 minutes a day on each part, you'll get done before the weekly reset. Get through the door, find your way to the Templar's Well, and there, you can leave and join someone else's fireteam so that you can complete the raid. Just be sure and help your buddy that had to leave finish it when he comes back tomorrow. I've been on both ends of the stick though. Sometimes I've been the guy who has to leave. Normally when that happens it's fairly late and we all agree we'll team back up the next day around the time we started at. I still haven't seen this happen lol. I've also been frustrated that someone had to leave, allowing us not to finish. I joined another team who was just starting and we got it done from first to last ;) and then when my original team was getting back together I went and helped them through the rest of it because I made a commitment to them that I was going to help them get all the way through it. And we did. I've even helped people I didn't know at all through the raid, after I'd already finished the raid 3 or more times in a week. But I digress; you don't have to complete the raid in one fell swoop. And I severely disagree with your statements about using mics. I do have a headset. But all of my playtime in Destiny, my headset was 5 states away. One of the good ones that has the in-game audio and sliders to adjust the volume of the game and voice chat separately. Would've been awesome if I'd had it, I could've gotten a lot more done. But I didn't have a mic at all. 120+ hours without a mic. I felt naked. But, I've still managed to complete the raid a handful of times. Many of those times I'd pay close attention to how many kills I get compared to everyone else. I was normally the top killer. I would also die the least, get spotted in the Gaze the least, kill the most oracles, kill the most praetorians, and kill the most supplicants. When other people would die I would keep a timer in my head and slowly work my way towards them while keeping the enemies down, or just flat out get to their orb as quickly as possible and defend their corpse until revive was available. But I was never able to talk. So I made use of pointing, sitting, dancing, and hiding somewhere while I SENT THE LEADER A MESSAGE that he could relay to the rest of the team so we could quit wiping. I probably sent forty messages that night. I was getting frustrated. By the end of the night, though, they knew if I wasn't moving that I was about to make it easier for them, and we were about to wipe. So they all jumped, and when I sent the message I waited for it to be read aloud and I jumped too. For those of you who think you absolutely need a mic to play the VoG: you don't. It isn't needed. There is not one area that requires you to open your loud mouth. If the first thing that comes to your mind is the Atheon fight, where you need to tell the three on the supplicant side which portal portal to open, let me let you in on a secret: you can figure out which portal to open if you just look at your radar. I was already opening the portal by the time the relic crew even remembered to let us know they were on Venus.

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