People will try to argue you wrong to no end i swear. All I see is you are wrong I did this and I did that. 1. You are below Rank 27. - In general this is correct, yes there are a super stars that can do it at lower ranks, but thats not the norm. 2. No Mic. - yes there are those that have run the vog without a mic but its just more fun talking to others and it does make it easier. 3. Party Chat. - Yes party chat does work better then in game chat I have noticed nat type errors in game and the same person comes to party chat and it works fine. 4. Leadership - Yes everyone can just do what they like and still finish the raid but it does make it easier to be well organized. 5. Its not a Strike. - Yes people leaving is a pain in the ass period. 6. Weapons, Supers, Builds & Perks - Yes you can probably beat the vault with common weapons but again it just makes it harder for everyone. Even if you did get the middle of the group for total kills. Better weapons would of got you to the top and took the load off others even more. 7. Be patient with people. - This one is tough with everyone telling you how wrong you are non stop. Oh wait that's the forum not the raid. 8. But I was invited... - This one is a bit redundant as it was explained in #5 but yes still correct Summary Stop trying point out how wrong people are cause you as a individual were able to do something they said shouldn't be done in general. I think this post was friendly and helpful and I agree if all these things are done you will have a great vog expierence.